Thread: 83 days until my wedding.

everyday i also take...
creatine (preworkout)
milk thistle (1500mg)
fish oils (few different kinds)
Multivitamins (animal stack)
a couple of extracts for bp, prostate, and kidneys
vit C, D, B6,
BCAA's

DAY 21:

today was the first day i introduced oral tren to my cycle.
I took 40mg this morning along with my shot of 50mg test prop, tren ace, mast prop.
I felt very tired all day but I will attribute that to two factors. My son slept like shit last night which meant i was up all night and today was a "zero carb" day.
I am always sluggish on my zero carb days.
I will take 50mg more of the oral tren before i go workout at around 6pm.

today i ate one egg and one mild italian sausage for breakfast.
I ate about half a pound of tri tp at 1pm
i had two hot dogs with mustard after work.
I will eat a giant steak tonight after the gym before bed.

I only eat red meat on zero carb days (it is not normal that i have red meat at every meal, you would usually see chicken breast in there but i didnt feel like chicken today)
I try to eat as much chicken and fish as possible on my normal and low carb days.

day 21, workout:

heavy pull day...
dead lifts:
135lbs 1x5
315lbs 3x3

one-arm seat row
100lbs 1x5
165lbs 3x3

pull ups
2, 1, 1, 1

i finished the workout off by trying a new maching at my gym that is kind of like a stationary rope climb.
It was alright. I just went to failure on it.

I tried to play some basketball but my arms were straight dead.

I may have read straight over it, but have you considered using Clen? or Clen with T3?

Originally Posted by Eiserner Hahn

I may have read straight over it, but have you considered using Clen? or Clen with T3?

ya you did read over it...
I am using clen 15 days on/off..
I started the cycle with clen so I will restart the clen on day 31.
I usually do 50mcg the first day then 100mcg/day for the next 14 days.
This may sound crazy to some, but i take my clen right before bed because it straight up knocks me out. If i take it in the AM i am sluggish as fuck all day.

clen takes opposite effect with me. I try to take it as early as possible lol i needz my beauty sleep

Originally Posted by Eiserner Hahn

clen takes opposite effect with me. I try to take it as early as possible lol i needz my beauty sleep

so weird how that works lol.
when I am on tren and take my clen in the pm the night sweats become amplified.
It not too much to deal with but it kind of grosses out my fiancee when she notices it lol

lol

well good luck and tear the gym up

Have you considered anavar for your cut bro? It is really the best stuff on the market when it comes
to reducing body mass and weight other than clen which I see you are already taking which is great
congrats on your wedding mine is a few days after yours in july. Def want to be ready for that for sure

Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1

Have you considered anavar for your cut bro? It is really the best stuff on the market when it comes
to reducing body mass and weight other than clen which I see you are already taking which is great
congrats on your wedding mine is a few days after yours in july. Def want to be ready for that for sure

actually yes i have totally considered it.
Basically i was going to add it to phase 2 of my cycle at 80mg/day
its still an option but i just want to see how my liver reacts to the winny especially right after 50 days of oral tren.
If i feel like i am fine then I will add it for sure.

today i woke up with some soreness in my nipples.
I am not sure if it is prolactin related or estrogen related.
I will be using prami every moring and night. and .5mg of letro every other morning for probably one week.
If the pain doesnt subside I will get some bloods done.


Today is a normal carb day.
for breakfast I have a sausage, egg, cheese and tater tot burrito.
for lunch i had a big ass croissant (the bakery that we order out donuts and stuff from at work is trying to sell me these croissants, they are so good I think I am going to say no just beause I know Ill get addicted lol)

Day 22

today i skipped the gym...
I need to catch up on sleep so i just took my 50mg oral tren, now I am going to eat a double turkey burger and crash out early for the night.
every couple of weeks I opt to catch up on sleep over a workout.
Since tonight was supposed to be high volume vertical push focus I will just start my workout tomorow with 100 military presses.

I trained twice a day and did cardio 4+ times a week getting in shape for my wedding... It was total overkill, ended p with skinnier legs than I wanted and no where near as cut as I should have been, live and learn. My wife looked great, she trained normally. she always has been more grounded than me...lol

Best wishes to you and yours!!!

I'm getting married too on June 8th. Congrats!

Originally Posted by HFO3

I trained twice a day and did cardio 4+ times a week getting in shape for my wedding... It was total overkill, ended p with skinnier legs than I wanted and no where near as cut as I should have been, live and learn. My wife looked great, she trained normally. she always has been more grounded than me...lol

Best wishes to you and yours!!!

yes i have experienced overtraining myself before as well. At the time I thought there was no such thing as overtraining on gear but i proved myself wrong.
I usually spend no more than 35-45 mins in the gym and my workout regiment has me working out everyday because I am undoubtedly going to skip a session here and there.

I look forward to hearing more input from you HFO. You are jacked brotha and your advice is much appreciated.

day 23

So it is my third day adding oral tren at 90mg ed to my cycle.
just to clarify: 40mg 6am and 50mg 4-6pm preworkout...
today was the first time in my life that i have ever experience severe back pumps during my workout.
I started my workout with 5x20 military press on the smith machine 135lbs to make up for my missed workout yesterday.
Then I went into todays workout. I started with one armed seated rows @ 150lbs after a couple of sets my back seized up and it felt like I was getting hard cramps in the middle of my back. I got up and stretched out and used a clindrical rolling thing to massage my back and it cleared up just fine.
It put a wrinkle in my workout though.
I just ended the workout with 5x20 SLDs with 135lbs.
then I did some arnold curls and bounced.

on a side note there is this fool at my gym that goes around trying to help everyone workout and it is pissing me off.
I hope this added tren doesnt make me toss him into a mirror lol!

Maybe get some Taurine Powder to help with the pumps

Originally Posted by Eiserner Hahn

Maybe get some Taurine Powder to help with the pumps

i actually have taurine tablets just the gnc brand, I forget the mg/pill but i take two every morning when I am on clen because that shit has me straight drowsy without them.
I will just start taking them every mornign regardless and see what happens.

lemme know how if that helps. I have had some nasty back pumps on back day before, really limited me on heavy deads

Day 23

Also wanted to add.
I weighed myself right after my workout on the scale at the gym (the same scale I always use)
and I was 242.5 I feel like 25% might be too high of an estimate for my bodyfat.
I will post a pic so that these numbers become irrelevant but i can definately see my top four abs but i still have a 36-38" waist so I think i am more likely around 20% bodyfat at 240-245lbs.

day 24

quick update:
nipple sensitivity almost gone and I will continue prami and adex at the new upped dosage.

today was a Zero Carb day.
I had two eggs and a sausage link for breakfast.
I had a pile of carne asada with chopped red onions, cilantro, and squeezed lime for lunch.
Gonna have 2lbs of chicken breast for dinner.

Just toook my 50mg preworkout dose of oral tren and I will hit the gym within an hour.

Never getting married good luck with the cut

thanks bud!

that was my motto too until I knocked up my woman!

day 24

workout....

bench press:
135, 1x12
225, 1x5
315, 3x3 (my strength is SKYROCKETING)

tri pushdowns
dropsets

pec deck...
145 2x20
160 2x20
175 2x20

This is almost back to my old strength from 08 when I was absolutely in my prime.
Moving this weight I know I will be making huge progress...

day 25

another week of work in the bag!

This morning my nipples were achy and they have been very sensitive to the touch since then.
This will be my new AI prtocol.
prami: 1mg every night
Arimidex: .5mg every night
(new addition) letrozole: 1.25mg until sensitivity subsides then I will ramp down slowly to avoid a rebound

I think I recall hearing something about how prami doesnt work for everyone when it comes to prolactin control.
Maybe it just isnt for me.
In my previous tren runs I just used prolactrone 1000mg ed split morning and night and was fine but it was out of stock where i usually get it from so I just added some prami from CEM to my usual order of burners

those are the jintani ancillaries?

Originally Posted by Eiserner Hahn

those are the jintani ancillaries?

No...
All of my ancillaries come from CEM Products

Shoot lol I can't find any reviews of their ancillaries