Alflutop VS Deca

TheRhino · 09-27-2009, 12:03 AM

so i have some deca that im wanting run for awhile for some joint pain, but the other day i came across Alflutop which seems like its prescribe alot in Europe for joint pain, i cant seem to find to much info on it though. from what i have read its been good things. i was wondering if anyone has used this before? what was your experience with this? sides?

which would you perfer Deca or Alflutop?

Alflutop is only a 21 to 28 day water based cycle vs doing 100 to 200 a week for ten or so weeks with deca?

**Built** · 09-27-2009, 01:59 AM

I was just looking into this myself.

Alflutop
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That and Adequan, which is used in veterinary care but so far not in humans - although there is plenty of anecdotal info out there about veterinarians using it on themselves.

Adequan
Adequan for Dogs

Only approved for use in animals in the US, but I have heard an unsubstantiated rumor that it is used in humans in
Europe.

Relief for bad joints at last??? Adequan - SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums
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(WO/2000/056298) TREATMENT OF LYME DISEASE WITH POLYSULFATED GLYCOSAMINOGLYCAN FORMULATIONS

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There appears to be all kinds of shit that helps with joint injuries, arthritis etc. Pity none of it's legal.

Now I wonder why that might be... I mean, who could POSSIBLY benefit from the treatment of chronic pain leading to debilitating injuries? Who... who...?

ubergroover · 09-28-2009, 04:47 AM

Dont worry, if the legal drug cartel in this country (Pharm manufacturers) sniff money in something, it will be legal as soon as they grease the FDA.....I used to work for one. Common.

TheRhino · 09-28-2009, 01:45 PM

im gonna have my girl friend bring home info on it. she works in health care and talk to some people and probably try it out and ill log it on here for ya built

**Pirate!** · 09-28-2009, 06:13 PM

I've used aflutop. It seemed to help, but didn't give the pain relief of nandrolone. Coming off nandrolone, everything aches. It's only temporary.

**Built** · 09-28-2009, 08:55 PM

TheRhino, please be careful - but I'm curious to hear your results.

Pirate!, this is also interesting to note.

As an aside, I wonder if running Aflutop and/or Adequan toward the end of a cycle of Deca might mitigate this negative after-effect?

TheRhino · 09-29-2009, 07:58 AM

hey Pirate what where your doses with the deca, im probably gonna keep my yellow tops just in case, you said coming off deca you had temporary aches how long did that last? and the relief you did get from the deca how long did that last VS the alflutop? and did you have any problems running the Alflutop?

ive been hearing some mixed reviews now about the Alflutop either people love it or people just say its ok.

Built i will be very careful like i said i still need to do some searching and talk to a couple people.

skeptik · 10-20-2009, 05:09 AM

Hey guys,

I dont know what Im doing here, I dont pump iron!lol
maybe I should, but at 55, everything hurts! Anyway, I was
researching onother great product from Romania, Gerovital,
Actually I just started taking it my self, first time ever!
Although I was born in Romania, I've been gone for 30 years
and i never heard of Aflutop, but a lot of my friends are
telling me its works and a lot of soccer teams are using
it as well as a other athletes! I mean, in Romania, I dont
know about other countries! Im taking Gerovital right now,
for a while, but after, I think I will try Aflutop also, since
my joints have over 40 years of soccer in them and 23 years
of carpet cleaning! As a matter of fact, my right knee has
no cartilage for over 22 years, never did the surgery, and
now I regret it! If Aflutop will not work, I found out where
a lot of NBA and other athletes are going to REGENERATE
the growth of cartilage where you lost it!! Im sure its expensive
and have a long waiting list(i could not afford it)...its called:

THE RAILROAD HOSPITAL in Bucharest ,Romania,..I dont know
details, you should check it out! They speak a lot of english
In Romania, dont worry!! I will give the romanian name for
'google' purposes, Thats all i know, I hope it helps, since Im
not comming back, no reason to! You shoud also check Gerovital,
its the most studied product ever!!! But it will not help you
if you're young and healthy! You have to be old-er and have
problems!! The romanian name of the hospital that regrows
cartilage: INCDSB-Bucharest; Spitalul CFR 2 - Sectia Ortopedie- Traumatologie Hospital CFR 2 - Orthopedics-Traumatology Department
Spitalul C.F.R. 2 - B-dul Marasti nr. 63, Tel: 01/222.33.79
Bucharest, Romania
I hope it helps! I cant afford it myself, but if you can, you can
have new cartilage! I heard!! Good luck!
I will probably come back to tell you about Aflutop after I take it!

09-27-2009, 12:03 AM	#1
TheRhino Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: washington Posts: 68 Photos: 1	Alflutop VS Deca so i have some deca that im wanting run for awhile for some joint pain, but the other day i came across Alflutop which seems like its prescribe alot in Europe for joint pain, i cant seem to find to much info on it though. from what i have read its been good things. i was wondering if anyone has used this before? what was your experience with this? sides? which would you perfer Deca or Alflutop? Alflutop is only a 21 to 28 day water based cycle vs doing 100 to 200 a week for ten or so weeks with deca?

09-27-2009, 01:59 AM	#2
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,116	I was just looking into this myself. Alflutop [Use of alflutop in the treatment of patients with...[Klin Med (Mosk). 2004] - PubMed Result zSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed _DefaultReportPane l.Pubmed_RVDocSum That and Adequan, which is used in veterinary care but so far not in humans - although there is plenty of anecdotal info out there about veterinarians using it on themselves. Adequan Adequan for Dogs Only approved for use in animals in the US, but I have heard an unsubstantiated rumor that it is used in humans in Europe. Relief for bad joints at last??? Adequan - SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums bad-joints-last-adequan (WO/2000/056298) TREATMENT OF LYME DISEASE WITH POLYSULFATED GLYCOSAMINOGLYCAN FORMULATIONS T-Nation.com \| ance_bodybuilding_gear/psgagaquedan_rehab_usage_results_conlusion_in fo%3Bjsessionid=1666C4E52FE69FD0ADDBAF0E431A1821.h ydra?pageNo=0 There appears to be all kinds of shit that helps with joint injuries, arthritis etc. Pity none of it's legal. Now I wonder why that might be... I mean, who could POSSIBLY benefit from the treatment of chronic pain leading to debilitating injuries? Who... who...? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup. Last edited by Built : 10-04-2009 at 08:37 PM.

09-28-2009, 06:13 PM	#5
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,172	I've used aflutop. It seemed to help, but didn't give the pain relief of nandrolone. Coming off nandrolone, everything aches. It's only temporary. My 1-Andro RX Journal

09-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#6
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,116	TheRhino, please be careful - but I'm curious to hear your results. Pirate!, this is also interesting to note. As an aside, I wonder if running Aflutop and/or Adequan toward the end of a cycle of Deca might mitigate this negative after-effect? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

10-20-2009, 05:09 AM	#8
skeptik Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California Posts: 1	Just my 2 cents!! Hey guys, I dont know what Im doing here, I dont pump iron!lol maybe I should, but at 55, everything hurts! Anyway, I was researching onother great product from Romania, Gerovital, Actually I just started taking it my self, first time ever! Although I was born in Romania, I've been gone for 30 years and i never heard of Aflutop, but a lot of my friends are telling me its works and a lot of soccer teams are using it as well as a other athletes! I mean, in Romania, I dont know about other countries! Im taking Gerovital right now, for a while, but after, I think I will try Aflutop also, since my joints have over 40 years of soccer in them and 23 years of carpet cleaning! As a matter of fact, my right knee has no cartilage for over 22 years, never did the surgery, and now I regret it! If Aflutop will not work, I found out where a lot of NBA and other athletes are going to REGENERATE the growth of cartilage where you lost it!! Im sure its expensive and have a long waiting list(i could not afford it)...its called: THE RAILROAD HOSPITAL in Bucharest ,Romania,..I dont know details, you should check it out! They speak a lot of english In Romania, dont worry!! I will give the romanian name for 'google' purposes, Thats all i know, I hope it helps, since Im not comming back, no reason to! You shoud also check Gerovital, its the most studied product ever!!! But it will not help you if you're young and healthy! You have to be old-er and have problems!! The romanian name of the hospital that regrows cartilage: INCDSB-Bucharest; Spitalul CFR 2 - Sectia Ortopedie- Traumatologie Hospital CFR 2 - Orthopedics-Traumatology Department Spitalul C.F.R. 2 - B-dul Marasti nr. 63, Tel: 01/222.33.79 Bucharest, Romania I hope it helps! I cant afford it myself, but if you can, you can have new cartilage! I heard!! Good luck! I will probably come back to tell you about Aflutop after I take it!

09-28-2009, 04:47 AM	#3
ubergroover Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Ct Posts: 19	Dont worry, if the legal drug cartel in this country (Pharm manufacturers) sniff money in something, it will be legal as soon as they grease the FDA.....I used to work for one. Common.

09-28-2009, 01:45 PM	#4
TheRhino Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: washington Posts: 68 Photos: 1	im gonna have my girl friend bring home info on it. she works in health care and talk to some people and probably try it out and ill log it on here for ya built

09-29-2009, 07:58 AM	#7
TheRhino Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: washington Posts: 68 Photos: 1	hey Pirate what where your doses with the deca, im probably gonna keep my yellow tops just in case, you said coming off deca you had temporary aches how long did that last? and the relief you did get from the deca how long did that last VS the alflutop? and did you have any problems running the Alflutop? ive been hearing some mixed reviews now about the Alflutop either people love it or people just say its ok. Built i will be very careful like i said i still need to do some searching and talk to a couple people.

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