supperfly1977

ok.
am going to try winstrol frist time.
325 been working out over a year over ten life time.
in this year whent from 36% bf to 23% finaly got my diet right..
still have long way to go, going to start winny for 8 weeks just winny! any comments...

ubergroover

personally I would cut my bodyfat down another 10-12 % before thinking about any type of cycle....

dave 236

winny is not magic.You should try to get yor bf% in the low teens first.Winny is a good way to go but the risks are high for liver problems eve at 8 weeks.

supperfly1977

how abot a good stack to bulk and cut?

ubergroover

Reading between the lines here, it seems you may be trying to cut your body fat% by using the Winny. Nothing lowers body fat better than good old hard aerobic/cardio work along with a good diet. Going from 36 to 23% body fat like you did is great, and a testimony to dedication. So if you can do it again, you should. Winny for me is great stuff, the last time I did it I gained 8lbs of good muscle and definition. But I am also 9% BF. As a side effect my joints always hurt, and ones you would not expect, like hips, shoulders. So why put yourself through it until it can make a big difference.
As far as bulking goes, Identify your long term target on paper, whether it is cutting or bulking. Then work backwards in manageable steps to where you are now. I plan my meals and exercise routines, along with my "snack days" and how I will burn it off, week by week. I know that this is probably not the answer you wanted. However, the lower the body fat, the better result. Good luck. Keep up the hard work!

TheRhino

the winni is a waste if your not going to show! and unless your going add some test to it, have fun with the painful joints you will have while on it, and like they are saying lower your BF more or again its a waste of money!!