jmorrison

I have decided to wait another year for an anabolic cycle, but would like to run a PH this winter for a bulk. I posted in the supplement forum also, but there is a lot of cross talk on this subject and thought I would get you fellas advice also.

I would like to do a 8-12 week prohormone cycle, and need some advice. I have been researching this for the last 4 hours, which has basically been like smashing my face into a wall for all the useful information I have received.

I was looking first at the 1-andro, but after reading the reviews, I would like something a little stronger. Please make any suggestions here. Money is not really an issue, I just want a tried and tested cycle with a readily available PCT that I will not have to have smuggled into the country in a donkey's ass. (the #1 smuggling choice of discerning drug dealers!)

Topical creams, pills, methylated, whatever, it all goes. Please post any suggestions you may have along with a PCT. 1st hand experience would be wonderful, but any advice is welcome!

You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID

Pirate!

8-12 weeks is way too long for methyls. We have very experienced lifters gaining 5lbs LEAN muscle a month on 1-Andro RX. I can pm you links to some logs if you like. It's plenty strong for a first cycle. With the special, you can get 3 bottles for $80 right now. Check out my 1-Andro Journal link in my sig.

My 1-Andro RX Journal

Mags

I made huge gains on 1-T and H-drol. I'd say H-drol was a good muscle builder, particularly for a first-timer. It's not in the same leagues as Superdrol etc, but it gave me good gains that were dry, lean and sides-free. Superdrol type 'bulking' PH's always gave me back cramps or bloat. If I had the choice between H-drol and the likes of Superdrol, I'd pick the former. However, as Pirate mentioned, methyls aren't a good choice for 8-12 week cycles. I ran an 8-week H-drol cycle (100mg ED) and it pretty much pickled my liver. I had significant gains, but it took me about 10 weeks to get back to normal. If you go with methyls, keep it to 6 weeks. If you are set on a longer cycle, Pirate's right in that the non-methylated 1-Andro would be a good choice. It's received great reviews on effectiveness and is safer than methyls so, again, it's good for a first-timer. Depending on your size, though, you might want to go for a higher daily dose than recommended. And higher doses for longer periods can become expensive, so make full use of the offer. I'm looking to run 800mg ED of 1-Andro in the next few weeks for 6 weeks so will keep you posted on how I find it. Whatever your choice, good luck.

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jmorrison

The length of the cycle would be tailored to the specific PH I would be using. The 8-12 week window is simply an allowance of the time that I have to devote to the cycle.

I will read more on the 1-Andro. Even in Pirates log, I have not been able to find evidence of significant growth on the logs that I have located. Any links would be great, as I would prefer to use a non-toxic and affordable PH over an expensive, possibly illegal one that will mess up my liver.

Suggestions are very much welcome, and thank you guys for contributing.

You should bang this chick like a mountain gorilla ~ ROID

Mags

I'm not sure how long you'd wanna wait, but LG Sciences are developing a new product for launch soon (come on, I have to do my promotional bit).

Here's a bit of spiel about it below. It's a little vague and, obviously, we all would like to see some hard facts, stats and firsthand accounts to give us an indication of its potency and effect, but it sounds interesting nonetheless. However, if you want something now-ish and that has a load of feedback and a tried-and-tested track record, then something like 1-Andro or Superdrol etc would be a good choice. I've had good gains with both M1T and awesome gains with an H-drol/1-T stack, but have yet to start my 1-Andro RX cycle therefore cannot speak of its effects. Anyway, here is some info the folks at LG sent me regarding their new product:

Natadrol

"We are about to launch the newest and most advanced product ever
developed by LG, it's the culmination of 4 years of research. The
product is Natadrol. We can't tell you what's in it yet, but I will say two major things that should get you interested:

1) We have isolated a plant extract that IS an androgen. Not a pSARM or
anything like that, the real deal. Not that it won't have sides like
androgens since the main mechanism was shown to increase prostate growth and muscle mass. So, it will certainly be for people over 21 and WILL have some sides of an androgen. So be warned, it's the real deal and
WILL require PCT. The first phytoandrogen that requires PCT in the industry.

2) 2 Co-factors that have secondary anabolic properties. More to come on
this later, but these co-factors are certainly exciting."

They are also launching this too:

GHenerate

"We can't tell you what it is yet, either.

Details:

It contains NATURAL GHRP-2 and a natural GHRH agonist that are shown
in the literature to meaningfully increase GH release. This isn't some
homeopathic bullshit product, it has some sound literature behind it and
the logs are going really well. In the logs, sleep is better, hunger
is up and recovery is improved. Everything you want from a GH product."

Like I said, not a great deal of info or 'facts', but it's a heads-up. Hopefully they'll turn out to be effective products that yield good gains for the money and not just a duo of mediocre products with fancy names. I imagine they'll be looking for people to do trial runs soon, too, so keep an eye out.

Cheers.

These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.