Help Trying To Bulk Up

EL_NENE · 10-06-2009, 05:15 PM

I Am 25 190lbs 10% Bf Trying To Bulk Up I Have Being Here Since I Was 18 I Came To Experience That Food Is A Big Factor With That Aside I Was Thinking Of Running Some Deca And Sustenon With D-bol Or Anadrol My Goal Is Not To Be Cut But Be Bulky Solid Or If Recommend Something Else Let Me Know

VictorZ06 · 10-06-2009, 05:28 PM

Now that's what we call a run-on sentence. What's with the caps?

Anyway, what is your height? Have you run a cycle before? How long have you been training? What's your diet look like? If it's your first cycle, you might want to consider using a "test only" program.

(Oh, and Sustanon sucks for many many reasons, use one test...nothing blended) IMHO

/V

EL_NENE · 10-06-2009, 05:37 PM

well 5' 8" i have been training for 11 yrs since i was 14

yes i have deca and sus. but for a month and then i lay off for 2 then again

VictorZ06 · 10-06-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EL_NENE

yes i have deca and sus. but for a month and then i lay off for 2 then again

Sorry bro, I'm not sure what you mean. Please elaborate. Have you run a cycle before? If so, what...how much...and for how long?

/V

EL_NENE · 10-06-2009, 06:05 PM

Deca 300/wk And Sus 250/wk For 5 Weeks

VictorZ06 · 10-06-2009, 06:24 PM

Deca doesn't start working until week 3-4 so taking it for only 5 weeks is a waste (unless it's for joint pain). Sustanon at 250mg a week is a waste of gear because you are not getting the full effect of it because of the several blended esters of test. Sust has both short, medium, and long acting esters. If you take 250mg of week, the prop within the sust stops working in a few days, so you will only benefit from the long acting esters in sust. This is the main reason sust sucks at low doses.

I suggest changing the sust to enan or cyp.

test enan @400-500mg ew wks 1-12
deca @300-400mg ew wks 1-10
proviron @50mg ed 1-14
HCG @ 300iu 2X a week starting week 2 (optional)

Nolva on hand in case of gyno. Start at 20mg ed if you see signs.

Clomid for post.

/V

EL_NENE · 10-06-2009, 06:41 PM

Would It Be Effectiveto Add D-bol Or Anadrol

VictorZ06 · 10-06-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EL_NENE

Would It Be Effectiveto Add D-bol Or Anadrol

Ugh...again with the caps.

Yes, one could use dbol or drol to front with for the first 4-5 weeks. Drol is much stronger than dbol and not suggested for novice users.

I wouldn't go more than around 20-30mg ed of dbol for a first time user. IMHO

/V

10-06-2009, 05:15 PM	#1
EL_NENE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TX Posts: 12	Help Trying To Bulk Up I Am 25 190lbs 10% Bf Trying To Bulk Up I Have Being Here Since I Was 18 I Came To Experience That Food Is A Big Factor With That Aside I Was Thinking Of Running Some Deca And Sustenon With D-bol Or Anadrol My Goal Is Not To Be Cut But Be Bulky Solid Or If Recommend Something Else Let Me Know

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10-06-2009, 05:28 PM	#2
VictorZ06 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 477	Now that's what we call a run-on sentence. What's with the caps? Anyway, what is your height? Have you run a cycle before? How long have you been training? What's your diet look like? If it's your first cycle, you might want to consider using a "test only" program. (Oh, and Sustanon sucks for many many reasons, use one test...nothing blended) IMHO /V

10-06-2009, 05:37 PM	#3
EL_NENE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TX Posts: 12	well 5' 8" i have been training for 11 yrs since i was 14 yes i have deca and sus. but for a month and then i lay off for 2 then again

10-06-2009, 06:05 PM	#5
EL_NENE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TX Posts: 12	Deca 300/wk And Sus 250/wk For 5 Weeks

10-06-2009, 06:24 PM	#6
VictorZ06 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 477	Deca doesn't start working until week 3-4 so taking it for only 5 weeks is a waste (unless it's for joint pain). Sustanon at 250mg a week is a waste of gear because you are not getting the full effect of it because of the several blended esters of test. Sust has both short, medium, and long acting esters. If you take 250mg of week, the prop within the sust stops working in a few days, so you will only benefit from the long acting esters in sust. This is the main reason sust sucks at low doses. I suggest changing the sust to enan or cyp. test enan @400-500mg ew wks 1-12 deca @300-400mg ew wks 1-10 proviron @50mg ed 1-14 HCG @ 300iu 2X a week starting week 2 (optional) Nolva on hand in case of gyno. Start at 20mg ed if you see signs. Clomid for post. /V

10-06-2009, 06:41 PM	#7
EL_NENE Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TX Posts: 12	Would It Be Effectiveto Add D-bol Or Anadrol