lookn for advice on stack

lookn4mass · 10-08-2009, 08:02 PM

I'm 37 yrs old
5'9"
175pds

I've been lifting for a yr and a half( 3x's a week). Been using test and dbol on and off the whole time. Usually inject 1cc a week of 250mg test every week and dbol on and off evry few days, with a break of 2 weeks every month or so. I'm looking to gain more mass. I wondering is it ok to mix EQ, test and dbol. This week I started injecting 1cc(250mgs) once a week, 1cc of EQ(not sure of the mgs), and 50 mgs of dbol which I plan on taking 3 times a week. I've seen some serious gains injecting just the test, but I'm getting greedy..lol. Should I be injecting more test, more often? and how will the three affect my gains? I'm not sure how the three will affect my goals. I'm looking to jump up to 190-200 pds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

VictorZ06 · 10-08-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lookn4mass

I wondering is it ok to mix EQ, test and dbol.

I'm looking to jump up to 190-200 pds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Test, EQ, and Dbol make for an excellent cycle, and done right, you should have no trouble getting within range of your goals. And yes, I'd run more test.

In your case, I'd run 500mg of test e/c a week (250mg 2X a week)...250mg alone is a bit on the low end. I'd also keep the dbol consistent....5-6 weeks at a time up front. I don't think running dbol @ 50mg 3 X a week is the best idea. Most usually use it for the first 5-6 weeks of a cycle, every day.

/V

Shadowcam · 10-09-2009, 03:10 AM

You should plan you cycles better.
Doesnt even sound like you have done any sort of PCT and time between cycles is not sufficent.

If I were you I would start a PCT now and get bloodwork done and have some time off to let your body recouperate and let your natural hormones return to a adequate level.

If you insist on running your cycle then keep the Test at 500mg/week (250mg twice per week).
I would not recommend running anymore Dbol untill your next cycle, it sounds like you have been hitting that stuff pretty hard which is not a good idea as it can be fairly damaging towards the organs.

Dbol should never be ran for more than six weeks, 4 weeks is better, Its usually ran at the start of a long eastered cycle to kickstart gains and you should alway take it daily as it has a very short halflife.

Remember to take time off after cycles which should not exceed 12 weeks and finish up with an adequate PCT.

time on=time off and get bloodwork done.

Stay healthy!

**Pirate!** · 10-09-2009, 09:24 AM

Solid advice from shadowcam. Diet yeilds mass. Your
Approach is haphazzard.

lookn4mass · 10-09-2009, 02:16 PM

OK Fantastic advice... I'm obviously a novice on understanding this stuff. So lets pretend I'm starting this stuff this week.This is what i got in my latests shipment. 10 shots of test(450mgs) 10 shots of test(250 mgs) a package of EQ, and I still have about 15 50 mgs dbol. It's been about 3 weeks since my last usage of any. I want the stuff to last because my delivery is inconsistant, so in the past i use it all till it was gone. Definately seems like you guys know, so I wanan do it right. I just took 1cc of the 450 test and 1cc of the eq on Tues. Whats the next step??

awhites1 · 10-09-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lookn4mass

OK Fantastic advice... I'm obviously a novice on understanding this stuff. So lets pretend I'm starting this stuff this week.This is what i got in my latests shipment. 10 shots of test(450mgs) 10 shots of test(250 mgs) a package of EQ, and I still have about 15 50 mgs dbol. It's been about 3 weeks since my last usage of any. I want the stuff to last because my delivery is inconsistant, so in the past i use it all till it was gone. Definately seems like you guys know, so I wanan do it right. I just took 1cc of the 450 test and 1cc of the eq on Tues. Whats the next step??

A general rule of thumb i've been told several times is take off twice as long as you cycle on. How long was your last cycle? also if its been about 3 weeks, not sure what kind of test you were running but it should be out by now. have you started your clomid and/or novaldex?

lookn4mass · 10-09-2009, 09:22 PM

my last cycle was about 2 months long. should i get clomid/ novaldex, not sure i know what that is, but I'll find out. The test i usually get is sustenon(if i spelled it right). I get it in package form and snap off glass bottles. So your saying if my cylce is 2 months long, i should break for 4?

Shadowcam · 10-10-2009, 05:31 AM

Yes, you need clomid or Nolv for PCT and HCG will help also.

Roaddkingg · 10-10-2009, 06:21 PM

What you need to do is to check into the half lifes of the compounds you are using or plan to use. For example..everyone knows d-bol is 6-8 hours half life. There for if you want to stay consistant with the levels it's best to split you'r doses. Example..morning noon and night. Like some test stays for around 10-14 days. Theres charts for this and you need to check them out. Plan you'r cycle and pct accordingly.

awhites1 · 10-13-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lookn4mass

my last cycle was about 2 months long. should i get clomid/ novaldex, not sure i know what that is, but I'll find out. The test i usually get is sustenon(if i spelled it right). I get it in package form and snap off glass bottles. So your saying if my cylce is 2 months long, i should break for 4?

correct. if you went 2 months i would recommend 4 off. also sustanon is a pretty long acting ester so it stays in your system awhile. You can't start your PCT til its out. You should just google PCT or search this site.

10-08-2009, 08:02 PM	#1
lookn4mass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3	lookn for advice on stack I'm 37 yrs old 5'9" 175pds I've been lifting for a yr and a half( 3x's a week). Been using test and dbol on and off the whole time. Usually inject 1cc a week of 250mg test every week and dbol on and off evry few days, with a break of 2 weeks every month or so. I'm looking to gain more mass. I wondering is it ok to mix EQ, test and dbol. This week I started injecting 1cc(250mgs) once a week, 1cc of EQ(not sure of the mgs), and 50 mgs of dbol which I plan on taking 3 times a week. I've seen some serious gains injecting just the test, but I'm getting greedy..lol. Should I be injecting more test, more often? and how will the three affect my gains? I'm not sure how the three will affect my goals. I'm looking to jump up to 190-200 pds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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10-09-2009, 03:10 AM	#3
Shadowcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 506	You should plan you cycles better. Doesnt even sound like you have done any sort of PCT and time between cycles is not sufficent. If I were you I would start a PCT now and get bloodwork done and have some time off to let your body recouperate and let your natural hormones return to a adequate level. If you insist on running your cycle then keep the Test at 500mg/week (250mg twice per week). I would not recommend running anymore Dbol untill your next cycle, it sounds like you have been hitting that stuff pretty hard which is not a good idea as it can be fairly damaging towards the organs. Dbol should never be ran for more than six weeks, 4 weeks is better, Its usually ran at the start of a long eastered cycle to kickstart gains and you should alway take it daily as it has a very short halflife. Remember to take time off after cycles which should not exceed 12 weeks and finish up with an adequate PCT. time on=time off and get bloodwork done. Stay healthy!

10-09-2009, 02:16 PM	#5
lookn4mass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3	OK Fantastic advice... I'm obviously a novice on understanding this stuff. So lets pretend I'm starting this stuff this week.This is what i got in my latests shipment. 10 shots of test(450mgs) 10 shots of test(250 mgs) a package of EQ, and I still have about 15 50 mgs dbol. It's been about 3 weeks since my last usage of any. I want the stuff to last because my delivery is inconsistant, so in the past i use it all till it was gone. Definately seems like you guys know, so I wanan do it right. I just took 1cc of the 450 test and 1cc of the eq on Tues. Whats the next step??

10-09-2009, 09:22 PM	#7
lookn4mass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3	my last cycle was about 2 months long. should i get clomid/ novaldex, not sure i know what that is, but I'll find out. The test i usually get is sustenon(if i spelled it right). I get it in package form and snap off glass bottles. So your saying if my cylce is 2 months long, i should break for 4?

10-10-2009, 05:31 AM	#8
Shadowcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 506	Yes, you need clomid or Nolv for PCT and HCG will help also.

10-10-2009, 06:21 PM	#9
Roaddkingg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: U.S.A Posts: 26	What you need to do is to check into the half lifes of the compounds you are using or plan to use. For example..everyone knows d-bol is 6-8 hours half life. There for if you want to stay consistant with the levels it's best to split you'r doses. Example..morning noon and night. Like some test stays for around 10-14 days. Theres charts for this and you need to check them out. Plan you'r cycle and pct accordingly.