cycle and pct help

Yanks666 · 10-22-2009, 08:19 PM

whats up guys im new to the forum so bear with me...
currently starting my third cycle, which consists of test enanthate and deca 300, both by endosyn. im going to be doing 1cc and a half a week, twice a week for ten weeks. which would end up being 600mg test/300mg deca week.let me no if anyone thinks running the test that high will be a problem or should i bring it down to 500mg.

now for pct i get alil confused...my previous cycles were both enanthate for ten weeks, one at 250 mg and the second at 500mg, i did not run any pct for either one. Im thinking of having nolvadex on hand just incase any gyno, but mostly use it for pct along with a test booster such as zma,trib,diesel test...
Can anyone please give me dosages and also a good test booster,or even any other plan
P.S cant get my hands on any hcg!!!

Im 5'11...180 lbs..24 yrs old been training since 18

jurg · 10-23-2009, 01:19 AM

for pct get arimidex 1mg eod and hcg 2 x 2500iu a week for 3 weeks.
don't do nolvadex or clomids

Shadowcam · 10-23-2009, 05:34 AM

Probally better to keep the Test at 500mg/w. The addition of Deca is an increase enough from your previous cycle. If your running your cycle for 10 weeks then stop the Deca at 8 weeks and start your PCT 2 weeks after the last shot of Test.

I prefer clomid for PCT at a dosage of 100mg/d for 2 weeks, if you feel you need more then run it for a additional 2 weeks at 50mg/d. You can use Nolv if you want at a lower dosage obviously.

You can keep the Nolv on standby incase of signs of gyno flare up or you can run a low dose AI throughout your cycle.

Test boosters are weak. Ok for libido, thats about all.

did you manage to keep any gains from your previous cycles with no PCT?

Yanks666 · 10-23-2009, 03:31 PM

the first no none at all....the second were i ran it at 500mg/w turned out to keep most of it but not all, did loose alot of strength... on to the clomid ive heard of people having some bad reactions to it like visabilty and possible pms mood swings... would it be suffieciant to run nolva and armidex for pct... and still cant get hands on hcg...

Shadowcam · 10-24-2009, 01:09 AM

PCT is very important bud, cycles are worthless without it and you also need sufficient time off also.

I've never had troubles with sides from clomid but some do but then again most dose too high for some reason. Nolv will work if you cant get clomid. I've tried both and clomid is better IMO but everyones different.

Remember that recovery is harder with the addition of Deca in a cycle as it is very supressive. HCG goes very well in a cycle that contains Deca.

10-22-2009, 08:19 PM	#1
Yanks666 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: usa Posts: 12	cycle and pct help whats up guys im new to the forum so bear with me... currently starting my third cycle, which consists of test enanthate and deca 300, both by endosyn. im going to be doing 1cc and a half a week, twice a week for ten weeks. which would end up being 600mg test/300mg deca week.let me no if anyone thinks running the test that high will be a problem or should i bring it down to 500mg. now for pct i get alil confused...my previous cycles were both enanthate for ten weeks, one at 250 mg and the second at 500mg, i did not run any pct for either one. Im thinking of having nolvadex on hand just incase any gyno, but mostly use it for pct along with a test booster such as zma,trib,diesel test... Can anyone please give me dosages and also a good test booster,or even any other plan P.S cant get my hands on any hcg!!! Im 5'11...180 lbs..24 yrs old been training since 18

10-23-2009, 03:31 PM	#4
Yanks666 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: usa Posts: 12	... the first no none at all....the second were i ran it at 500mg/w turned out to keep most of it but not all, did loose alot of strength... on to the clomid ive heard of people having some bad reactions to it like visabilty and possible pms mood swings... would it be suffieciant to run nolva and armidex for pct... and still cant get hands on hcg...

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10-23-2009, 01:19 AM	#2
jurg Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: german Posts: 44	for pct get arimidex 1mg eod and hcg 2 x 2500iu a week for 3 weeks. don't do nolvadex or clomids

10-23-2009, 05:34 AM	#3
Shadowcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 506	Probally better to keep the Test at 500mg/w. The addition of Deca is an increase enough from your previous cycle. If your running your cycle for 10 weeks then stop the Deca at 8 weeks and start your PCT 2 weeks after the last shot of Test. I prefer clomid for PCT at a dosage of 100mg/d for 2 weeks, if you feel you need more then run it for a additional 2 weeks at 50mg/d. You can use Nolv if you want at a lower dosage obviously. You can keep the Nolv on standby incase of signs of gyno flare up or you can run a low dose AI throughout your cycle. Test boosters are weak. Ok for libido, thats about all. did you manage to keep any gains from your previous cycles with no PCT?

10-24-2009, 01:09 AM	#5
Shadowcam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 506	PCT is very important bud, cycles are worthless without it and you also need sufficient time off also. I've never had troubles with sides from clomid but some do but then again most dose too high for some reason. Nolv will work if you cant get clomid. I've tried both and clomid is better IMO but everyones different. Remember that recovery is harder with the addition of Deca in a cycle as it is very supressive. HCG goes very well in a cycle that contains Deca.