Reply With QuoteThat would be a pretty crude indicator but if PCT is good you should have no problems. I would use HCG, Clomid and Aromasin for PCT. The HCG should be employed before the esters clear.
Testicular atrophy a sign of upcoming post cycle recovery difficulty?
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Testicular atrophy a sign of upcoming post cycle recovery difficulty?
Just a curious question for you guys. Does a particular degree of testicular atrophy generally signify that your post cycle recovery will be a more difficult one in contrast to an experience where you see a lack of atrophy? Is there any sort of connection or is there none to speak of? I'm speaking in regards to keeping gains post cycle mostly. Does a lack of atrophy signify that your hormone levels are likely to rebound and normalize at a quicker pace? Or, again, is there no connection. Assume proper PCT is in place.
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hCG is recommended during cycle, not during PCT. This is to avoid atrophy, if you have no atrophy, you are in good shape for standard PCT.
Be careful using anything other than nolvadex or clomid, as estrogen can be heavily suppressed.Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
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I would also avoid using Aromasin during PCT due to the androgenic nature of Type-1 aromatase inhibitors (Anthony Roberts rolls over in his court grave). I used to think otherwise but now see the superiority of arimidex.
Atrophy is definitely a warning sign of difficult post cycle recovery.Disclaimer: All health, fitness, diet, nutrition, anabolic steroid & supplement information posted here is intended for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice from a medical doctor. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. If you choose to use AAS it's your responsibility to know the laws of the country that you live in. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website.
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Do you have any studies that indicate heavily supressed estradiol post cycle? I can't find support for this statement.
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What are your thoughts on estro rebound when discontinuing Arimidex? Originally Posted by Pirate!
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My testes shrink right up and haven't had any problems getting back to normal and keeping most gains. With hcg or without hcg for pct. I would definitely use hcg if you have it though.
My pct always consists of nolva/clomid.
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I think tapering may help avoid this. If tamoxifen is used for a few weeks after the cessation of adex and tapered well, rebound will likely not be problematic. Originally Posted by heavyiron.
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But as soon as you stop the adex it will detach from the aromatase enzyme causing a flood of estro. Additionally, Nolva raises estradiol as well. Originally Posted by Pirate!
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