Research chem question

**MtR** · 12-16-2009, 12:24 PM

I've been exposing my rats to long, painful days of listening to Yanni and Kenny G, as such my rats have very high estrogen levels. I was planning on getting some aromasin, also because I know for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction I was going to get some liquid Cialis as a reward for my poor rats.

I won't post who I usually go through out of respect for the research chem company who sponsors this forum but that being said I would appreciate any feedback on CEM's Aromasin and Cialis. My first impression is that they are a little expensive but I am also willing to pay more for quality.

Feedback is much appreciated

**MtR** · 12-16-2009, 12:59 PM

Would 12.5mg (aromasin) per day be enough for my rats?

**heavyiron** · 12-16-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mike the Ripper

Would 12.5mg (aromasin) per day be enough for my rats?

It depends if they are gyno prone. Typically that would be a decent dose but when they are not gyno prone using that dose on Mon, Wed, Fri is usually enough. As the cycle progresses estro will climb so typically more control is needed like adding Sat. It would also depend on what aromatizing compounds were being used as well.

**MtR** · 12-16-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

It depends if they are gyno prone. Typically that would be a decent dose but when they are not gyno prone using that dose on Mon, Wed, Fri is usually enough. As the cycle progresses estro will climb so typically more control is needed like adding Sat. It would also depend on what aromatizing compounds were being used as well.

They are prone to gyno but it is usually controlled fairly well when I introduce AI's. Aside from the Yanni and Kenny G on the rats I'm giving my kangaroo test/tren which equates to over a gram (he's a big kangaroo). Would that protocol of EOD be sufficient then?

**heavyiron** · 12-16-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mike the Ripper

They are prone to gyno but it is usually controlled fairly well when I introduce AI's. Aside from the Yanni and Kenny G on the rats I'm giving my kangaroo test/tren which equates to over a gram (he's a big kangaroo). Would that protocol of EOD be sufficient then?

Gyno prone AND over a gram is every day dosing in my book.

**MtR** · 12-16-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

Gyno prone AND over a gram is every day dosing in my book.

Thank you, what effect do you see as this having on gains? I'm sure the gains will be slower correct?

**heavyiron** · 12-16-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Mike the Ripper

Thank you, what effect do you see as this having on gains? I'm sure the gains will be slower correct?

Yes, you won't gain as much fat OR water and you won't be an emotional wreck either. Very little estro is needed for LBM growth.

**tballz** · 12-16-2009, 04:04 PM

I'm sure you will be happy with cem ai's and cia. I've tried their sarms and cia and loved it.

**MtR** · 12-16-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

Yes, you won't gain as much fat OR water and you won't be an emotional wreck either. Very little estro is needed for LBM growth.

Are you calling me a bitch? lol. j/k...please don't answer that.

Originally Posted by tballz

I'm sure you will be happy with cem ai's and cia. I've tried their sarms and cia and loved it.

Thanks for the feedback, bro.

**toothache** · 12-18-2009, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by tballz

I'm sure you will be happy with cem ai's and cia. I've tried their sarms and cia and loved it.

So CEM sarms is good stuff? I've been reading a lot about sarms. I think I'm ready to give it a shot.

**bigpapabuff** · 12-22-2009, 11:43 AM

for cem, the best ai's are the aromasin, great for on cycle, and the letro is great during pct.

**awhites1** · 12-22-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

Yes, you won't gain as much fat OR water and you won't be an emotional wreck either. Very little estro is needed for LBM growth.

So if I have this forum right he's basiclly talking abour running test and tren w/ some kind of a SERM with his stack to reduce Gyno....according to your quote though this will slow his size gains in terms of water retention and fat...but thats just size we're talking right? not muscle mass and strength correct?
I'm going to be running a test cycle March and was going to try Chrysin (in fairly large doses) with the cycle to help me keep mine down b/c I'm prone as well. Want to make sure this isn't going to inhibit me though

**heavyiron** · 12-22-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by awhites1

So if I have this forum right he's basiclly talking abour running test and tren w/ some kind of a SERM with his stack to reduce Gyno....according to your quote though this will slow his size gains in terms of water retention and fat...but thats just size we're talking right? not muscle mass and strength correct?
I'm going to be running a test cycle March and was going to try Chrysin (in fairly large doses) with the cycle to help me keep mine down b/c I'm prone as well. Want to make sure this isn't going to inhibit me though

Not SERM's but AI's reduce circulating estro.

**dr pangloss** · 12-22-2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by awhites1

So if I have this forum right he's basiclly talking abour running test and tren w/ some kind of a SERM with his stack to reduce Gyno....according to your quote though this will slow his size gains in terms of water retention and fat...but thats just size we're talking right? not muscle mass and strength correct?
I'm going to be running a test cycle March and was going to try Chrysin (in fairly large doses) with the cycle to help me keep mine down b/c I'm prone as well. Want to make sure this isn't going to inhibit me though

chrysin doesnt work in vivo. Better get yourself a real one like aromasin.

**lifterjaydawg** · 12-24-2009, 12:10 AM

definitely get real chems like aromasin or letro.

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