Thread: What's everyone running?

300mg/wk Test C, HCG, Clomid and the occasional Cialis as well.

My first HRT cycle.

Heavy, I was meaning to throw a cycle idea at you....

Originally Posted by TurdFerguson

300mg/wk Test C, HCG, Clomid and the occasional Cialis as well.

My first HRT cycle.

Heavy, I was meaning to throw a cycle idea at you....

Sure...

I'm planning on running a bulking cycle come May. Take a gander at what was proposed to me considering the compounds I'd chosen.

Phase #1 (4 week kick-start)

Week 1-2: SD at 10 mg/day
Week 3-4: SD at 20 mg/day
Week 1-4: Anadrol at 50 mg/day.
Week 1-4: 500 mg test prop/week.



Phase #2 (6 week mid-cycle bulk)

Week 5-10: Test prop at 1000 mg/week
Week 5-10: EQ at 600 mg/week


Phase #3 (6 week lean bulk)

Week 11-14: EQ at 600 mg/week.
Week 11-16: Test prop at 1000 mg/week
Week 11-16: Tren ace at 350-400 mg/week.
WeeK 11-16: Winny inj at 150 mg EOD.

Originally Posted by TurdFerguson

I'm planning on running a bulking cycle come May. Take a gander at what was proposed to me considering the compounds I'd chosen.

Phase #1 (4 week kick-start)

Week 1-2: SD at 10 mg/day
Week 3-4: SD at 20 mg/day
Week 1-4: Anadrol at 50 mg/day.
Week 1-4: 500 mg test prop/week.



Phase #2 (6 week mid-cycle bulk)

Week 5-10: Test prop at 1000 mg/week
Week 5-10: EQ at 600 mg/week


Phase #3 (6 week lean bulk)

Week 11-14: EQ at 600 mg/week.
Week 11-16: Test prop at 1000 mg/week
Week 11-16: Tren ace at 350-400 mg/week.
WeeK 11-16: Winny inj at 150 mg EOD.

Anadrol and SD together??? I think that's a poor choice.

Have you ever run Prop that high before? Seems like a lot for a newbie.

Weeks 11-16 is a ton of gear.

What's your cycle history and stats?

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

Anadrol and SD together??? I think that's a poor choice.

Have you ever run Prop that high before? Seems like a lot for a newbie.

Weeks 11-16 is a ton of gear.

What's your cycle history and stats?

I'm 5'10", 215lbs, below 10% bf. 29 years old, been weight training for 14 years.

I couldn't tell you exact cycles in regards to duration or dosage at the outset of my use, because I simply don't remember. I've been on and off AAS for 10 years.

Cycle previous to this was: weeks 1-10 600mg/wk prop
weeks 1-6 450mg/wk winni inj.
weeks 1-6 300mg/wk tren a.
Currently on HRT.

The Anadrol is the only thing I've never used before. The doses are all higher than I've previously run.

My diet's very well intact and PCT is as your protocol calls for.

Originally Posted by TurdFerguson

I'm 5'10", 215lbs, below 10% bf. 29 years old, been weight training for 14 years.

I couldn't tell you exact cycles in regards to duration or dosage at the outset of my use, because I simply don't remember. I've been on and off AAS for 10 years.

Cycle previous to this was: weeks 1-10 600mg/wk prop
weeks 1-6 450mg/wk winni inj.
weeks 1-6 300mg/wk tren a.
Currently on HRT.

The Anadrol is the only thing I've never used before. The doses are all higher than I've previously run.

My diet's very well intact and PCT is as your protocol calls for.

I seriously would not run two orals together especially SD and Anadrol. They are pretty rough on your liver enzymes and lipids. I have zero problems with guys bumping dosage 250mg higher than their highest previous doses so that's what I would advise on all meds. End the course with test only or transition to HRT.

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

I seriously would not run two orals together especially SD and Anadrol. They are pretty rough on your liver enzymes and lipids. I have zero problems with guys bumping dosage 250mg higher than their highest previous doses so that's what I would advise on all meds. End the course with test only or transition to HRT.

If you were to pick one or the other, what would you suggest in regards to the orals? Also, I'll be going right back on HRT at the end of the cycle.

Originally Posted by TurdFerguson

If you were to pick one or the other, what would you suggest in regards to the orals? Also, I'll be going right back on HRT at the end of the cycle.

Anadrol hands down.

Done and done. I'll let you know how things go once I get to that point. Now, I'll leave you be to deal with other people's cycles.

Originally Posted by TurdFerguson

Done and done. I'll let you know how things go once I get to that point. Now, I'll leave you be to deal with other people's cycles.

Good luck brother!

1000mg prop a week is very high IMO, I would drop that down to 200mg EOD, I also agree with heavyiron on the Anadrol.

About an 8 minute mile... Aah lol sorry I couldn't help it. Nice cycles guys, once I get in better shape and really polish my diet ill be looking into some clen, winny or tren.. But for now, ill just keep learning and reading up

i am on bulk cycle now..

700mg primo week
700mg prop week
240mg tren acet week
4iu hgh

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

Good luck brother!

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

1000mg prop a week is very high IMO, I would drop that down to 200mg EOD, I also agree with heavyiron on the Anadrol.

Much appreciated gentleman. I'm a few months out still, but I may create a log when the time comes.

Why not just run a bulk this winter, then a cut cycle is summer?

I would hit a short ester bulk cycle now.

1-8 test prop 200mg EOD
1-8 Tren A 100mg EOD
5-8 Anadrol 50mg ED
PCT
8 weeks off
Cut cycle

I'm still doing that keto diet now to get my bodyfat into the mid-single digit area. Then I was considering a couple short bursts with the SD and hit the bulk cycle towards summer.
I'm in FL, so in all fairness, our winter is about 1 month in March. It won't be cold either way.

750 sust. & 600 EQ. Cialis since the wife is on hrt now too.

750sust, 500deca finish with inj wini 50-100mg EOD. Im looking into tren for my next cycle but ill see how this one goes before i decide.

i have to ask. Why do some of you guys use winny on regular off season cycles?

Originally Posted by dr pangloss

i have to ask. Why do some of you guys use winny on regular off season cycles?

For me its to lower SHBG. Basically my stacks are sex drive friendly or are flat out designed to increase sex drive. From my reading SHBG will increase over the course of a cycle with many guys so running a little biit during or towards the end will control it. Its kinda a novel use since its not being used for its obvious purpose of cutting.

Sex hormone-binding globulin response to the anabolic steroid stanozolol: evidence for its suitability as a biological androgen sensitivity test.

Sinnecker G, Köhler S.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Hamburg, West Germany.
Both the androgen-induced decline in serum sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels during puberty and the anabolic effect of exogenous testosterone are absent in patients with androgen insensitivity (testicular feminization). To determine whether the androgen-induced decline in serum SHBG could be used as a test of androgen sensitivity, we studied the effect of the anabolic-androgenic steroid stanozolol (17 beta-hydroxy-17 alpha-methyl-5 alpha-androstano-[3,2-c]pyrazol) on serum SHBG in 25 control subjects, 3 patients with complete androgen insensitivity, and 4 patients with partial androgen insensitivity. Stanozolol was administered orally for 3 days (0.2 mg/kg.day); blood samples were taken before and 5, 6, 7, and 8 days after the beginning of the test for measurements of serum SHBG. The lowest value (i.e. the peak response) in each subject was used as the measure of the response to stanozolol. In the control subjects the mean nadir serum SHBG level was 51.6 +/- 5.9% (+/- SD) of the initial value (P less than 0.001). In the 4 patients with partial androgen insensitivity the nadir serum SHBG ranged from 73-89%, and in the 3 patients with complete androgen insensitivity it ranged from 93-97% of the initial value. Thus, the decrease in serum SHBG after short term administration of stanozolol reflects androgen responsiveness and, thus, may be used to differentiate patients with androgen insensitivity syndromes from those with other causes of male pseudohermaphroditism.

PMID: 2723028 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Proviron is, of course, a good option for diplacing Test from SHBG as well.


Do you find that winny wrecks you blood lipid numbers? It is notorious for this.

Also, although this is not written in science, everyone seems to have experienced joint problems on it. I know this happens to me.

It is also very weak as an anabolic agent. Most steroids will add muscle mass in the absence of training. winstrol appears not to.

On the other hand, it's great for hardening up muscles.

Have you noticed your muscles are harder to the touch?

Originally Posted by dr pangloss

Proviron is, of course, a good option for diplacing Test from SHBG as well.


Do you find that winny wrecks you blood lipid numbers? It is notorious for this.

Also, although this is not written in science, everyone seems to have experienced joint problems on it. I know this happens to me.

It is also very weak as an anabolic agent. Most steroids will add muscle mass in the absence of training. winstrol appears not to.

On the other hand, it's great for hardening up muscles.

Have you noticed your muscles are harder to the touch?

To be honest I don't notice anything from Winny at all. I have taken it orally at 50mg daily with zero discernable effects. Whenever I take orals my HDL is crushed though. I have had zero joint problems on it but when I diet my joints ache especially if I drop aromatizing compounds so I suspect the combination of diet and less water is likely the cause of joint problems.

Right now I am injecting it at 25mg twice weekly with my Test E. When I read the abstract not much Winny was needed for a reduction in SHBG so I figured that would be enough. Maybe you can dig up the whole study so we can see the effect on SHBG over the several days it was tested?

Just finished my first cycle. Good results, I expected better though. 500mg/wk Sustanon 250 500IU HCG weekly. Started taking Nolva today.

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

To be honest I don't notice anything from Winny at all. I have taken it orally at 50mg daily with zero discernable effects. Whenever I take orals my HDL is crushed though. I have had zero joint problems on it but when I diet my joints ache especially if I drop aromatizing compounds so I suspect the combination of diet and less water is likely the cause of joint problems.

Right now I am injecting it at 25mg twice weekly with my Test E. When I read the abstract not much Winny was needed for a reduction in SHBG so I figured that would be enough. Maybe you can dig up the whole study so we can see the effect on SHBG over the several days it was tested?

Sure. I think i'm behind on your papers. email me the title.

Originally Posted by dr pangloss

Sure. I think i'm behind on your papers. email me the title.

Done

Thank you!

500 mgs Test E. a week: 10 weeks.
Aromasin 12.5 mgs EOD, though this week I increased to ED and tacked on some Nolvadex (40 mgs, 20, 20, 20) after a I sensed my nips might be thinking about itching.

Some Dbol here and there just for flava: no more than 20 mgs, though. 20 gets me going just fine.

Up a few pounds, thanks to the Dbol. This is the end of week 3.

i think to add some primobolan in last 5 weeks too

I beat you all. I'm running 5iu of slin pre-workout starting monday.