Thread: Q & A with Heavyiron

Thanks FR for the kind words.

is it possible to gain 20-25lbs pure muscle in 1 year with cycles,good training and best diet ?

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

I have posted on Bodybuilding sites for about 5 years now and one of the few people I trust with chem advice is Heavyiron.

If you have any chem questions for him, ask away right here.

I agree Heavy is the man.

Originally Posted by WFC2010

is it possible to gain 20-25lbs pure muscle in 1 year with cycles,good training and best diet ?

If your training is down, your diet is great, and you've got a lot of cash, I'm sure anything is possible.

Hi Heavy. I've seen you on MD and RxMuscle. Good to see you here. Are you a founder of the site here? I'm a TRT guy so not really sure if any of my questions are fit for posting here. I use 100-200 mg of test/w with my treatment plus 500 iu of hCG 2x a week. I use the hCG about one month on and one month off. i also use nolvadex or and AI periodically and never together but alternate them. I do add some compounds to my TRT periodically. I've found that at my age 8 weeks is long enough for a little blast. After that I feel kind of crappy at higher doses. I like to add one of the following to my TRT during those periods: Anavar, Masteron, Durabolin, Equipoise and maybe once in a great while winstrol. I think I recall that you are a TRT guy too. Here are my questions.

1. What compounds do you prefer to add to your TRT?
2. What doses do you run your TRT?
3. What ancillaries do you find you prefer such as
a. AI
b. SERMs
c. thyroid
d. hCG
e. hGH
4. from your vast experience what is your favorite combination of compounds?

Originally Posted by WFC2010

is it possible to gain 20-25lbs pure muscle in 1 year with cycles,good training and best diet ?

Maybe for newer trainee's. The following is an excerpt from a clinical human trial. The data was collected after 20 weeks of administration of varying doses of Testosterone.

Body composition was measured after 20 weeks.

Fat Free Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase
Fat Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease


Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men -- Bhasin et al. 281 (6): E1172 -- AJP - Endocrinology and Metabolism

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Hi Heavy. I've seen you on MD and RxMuscle. Good to see you here. Are you a founder of the site here? I'm a TRT guy so not really sure if any of my questions are fit for posting here. I use 100-200 mg of test/w with my treatment plus 500 iu of hCG 2x a week. I use the hCG about one month on and one month off. i also use nolvadex or and AI periodically and never together but alternate them. I do add some compounds to my TRT periodically. I've found that at my age 8 weeks is long enough for a little blast. After that I feel kind of crappy at higher doses. I like to add one of the following to my TRT during those periods: Anavar, Masteron, Durabolin, Equipoise and maybe once in a great while winstrol. I think I recall that you are a TRT guy too. Here are my questions.

1. What compounds do you prefer to add to your TRT?
2. What doses do you run your TRT?
3. What ancillaries do you find you prefer such as
a. AI
b. SERMs
c. thyroid
d. hCG
e. hGH
4. from your vast experience what is your favorite combination of compounds?

8-9 weeks is perfect for a blast as Myostatin stops gains around then anyway.

I was invited here this month by Robert D.

1. If my joints are hurting I will add Nandrolone. If I want some horsepower I will add more Testosterone. If I add an oral it will be D-bol. If I want body recomping I will add Tren.

2. I never go lower than 250mg weekly on T but I prefer 300mg. I have used high strength test creams but I would rather pin. I would never recommend using less than 200mg T weekly for TRT.

3. I always run HCG with my T and I like AI's to control estro. I only use SERM's like Nolva for emergency gyno treatment or Clomid for PCT. I sometimes use T3 and rarely HGH.

4. Testosterone, HCG, Aromasin and an occasional Cialis. For older guys there is nothing like T and dialed in ancillaries. My favorite stacks are always sex drive friendly.

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

8-9 weeks is perfect for a blast as Myostatin stops gains around then anyway.

I was invited here this month by Robert D.

1. If my joints are hurting I will add Nandrolone. If I want some horsepower I will add more Testosterone. If I add an oral it will be D-bol. If I want body recomping I will add Tren.

2. I never go lower than 250mg weekly on T but I prefer 300mg. I have used high strength test creams but I would rather pin. I would never recommend using less than 200mg T weekly for TRT.

3. I always run HCG with my T and I like AI's to control estro. I only use SERM's like Nolva for emergency gyno treatment or Clomid for PCT. I sometimes use T3 and rarely HGH.

4. Testosterone, HCG, Aromasin and an occasional Cialis. For older guys there is nothing like T and dialed in ancillaries. My favorite stacks are always sex drive friendly.

Hi Heavy,

thanks for the reply. I have read that about myostatin levels. I have also read that the myostatin levels drop again after about 16 weeks or so. That would be a long time to stay on high doses of compounds though and who knows why it goes back down. The endocrine system is like a hundred floating ping pong balls all connected by 250 strings. One goes up and another goes down and so on and so on until the whols system finds a happy or semi happy balance or homeostasis. Eight weeks or so seems to be where most guys top out or near top out from a cycle so if we are on TRT there is really no reason to keep going when we can just drop to normal TRT dose and feel decent, retain a good deal of conditioning and recover from any stress from the past 8 weeks.

thanks,will try it

Don't know what happened but I replied earlier. Yeah Heavy, I read about myostatin increase after 8 weeks or so but also that it drops back down 8 or so weeks later. But I take your point about 8 week blasts.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Hi Heavy,

thanks for the reply. I have read that about myostatin levels. I have also read that the myostatin levels drop again after about 16 weeks or so. That would be a long time to stay on high doses of compounds though and who knows why it goes back down. The endocrine system is like a hundred floating ping pong balls all connected by 250 strings. One goes up and another goes down and so on and so on until the whols system finds a happy or semi happy balance or homeostasis. Eight weeks or so seems to be where most guys top out or near top out from a cycle so if we are on TRT there is really no reason to keep going when we can just drop to normal TRT dose and feel decent, retain a good deal of conditioning and recover from any stress from the past 8 weeks.

I think they measured myostatin at week 20 and it was baseline.

How Do U Cycle Nolvadex How Much And When For How Long

Any Body Tell Me How To Cycle Nolvadex How Much And When For How Long

Nolvadex is best for emergency gyno treatment but I personally would not use it for anything else.

What are your goals?

here is the deal i am on my 3rd week of sus250 1cc every 7 days my strenth and my size have both gone up alot but my nipples are getting just a little sore sometimes i am courios is this dangeres or is it normal. if not how sould i take care of it?

Originally Posted by ersin.konuk

here is the deal i am on my 3rd week of sus250 1cc every 7 days my strenth and my size have both gone up alot but my nipples are getting just a little sore sometimes i am courios is this dangeres or is it normal. if not how sould i take care of it?

You need to get on Nolvadex now at 20mg daily and I would also run an AI like Aromasin in all future cycles.

can i still stay on my cycle with the nolvadex or should i stop ?

Originally Posted by ersin.konuk

can i still stay on my cycle with the nolvadex or should i stop ?

As long as you start Nolvadex you may still use the Testosterone.

thank you for all your help heavy iron you guys have a merry christmas

Originally Posted by ersin.konuk

thank you for all your help heavy iron you guys have a merry christmas

HeavyIron's a Jew...

Hmm. I've always had a bit of gyno since I was a kid. A few dr's said deal with it... Another dude on this board treated himself with adex (I think) and had decent success. I know I need to drop some bf now, but for reference, any suggestions on treating naturally occurring/genetic gyno? Thanks in advance, and welcome to IM.. Seems you've really helped out the community a lot already!

Originally Posted by Cgrant

Hmm. I've always had a bit of gyno since I was a kid. A few dr's said deal with it... Another dude on this board treated himself with adex (I think) and had decent success. I know I need to drop some bf now, but for reference, any suggestions on treating naturally occurring/genetic gyno? Thanks in advance, and welcome to IM.. Seems you've really helped out the community a lot already!

If you do in fact have gyno the only treatment is surgery to remove the gland however you may use Nolvadex to block the action of estrogen in breast tissue so that you do not cause a further increase in size of the gland.

AI's like Arimidex lower circulating estro so they can also be used to protect against further growth of the gland as well. If you plan to run cycles of aromatizing compounds I would suggest Aromasin for estro control as it is a little stronger than adex.

Gotcha... Thanks for the help.. It appears that I'll lose the bf naturally, find a doctor that doesn't blow, and go on from theree... Thanks again man, repped

Originally Posted by Cgrant

Gotcha... Thanks for the help.. It appears that I'll lose the bf naturally, find a doctor that doesn't blow, and go on from theree... Thanks again man, repped

You may try letro to see if the gyno reduces but if its been around a while I think the chances are slim it will work.

First,thanks for take'n the time kick it on some really cool information based on knowledge and experience. That's a hella combo . Much Respect to you Homey.My question is this.............

For a Female who wished to increase size who already had several successful years of experience with Avavar and Primo compounds and is at 8 % BF at most. At this point her 4 to 6 weeks runs are 20mg Anavar ED and 100mg Primo Weekly. Lets also say she had access to whatever she needed to have whatever compounds made at whatever mg. injects or orals. What compounds at what mg would you suggest as a safe option to her current protocol ? Thanx a gang

Peace and Love

Mikhal, what sides has she noticed so far?

Also, you sure about that 8%? Because an assisted female COMPETES at 8%. I'm 14% in my avatar and I had veins in my lats - but I wasn't ready to compete; I would have still been too fat for stage. When I bulk I try to stay at or just over 20%. If she's at 8% it won't matter what she runs, she won't gain. Not unless she eats.

Heavy do you think trenbolone acetate is getting scares?

Originally Posted by weldingman

Heavy do you think trenbolone acetate is getting scares?

I'm not afraid of it. It's certainly not afraid of me.