Thread: CEM S4 how much , how to use it?

These may help:

My SARMs log
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...s4-doasge.html

thank you Mags for those references but nobody says when we are suposed to take the S4 before or just after training, or just in the morning?
Is it to be swallowed or to take it like a homeopathic medication, under the tongue (sublingual)?

I've read it last about 6 hours in your system so I take a dose in the am and one in the pm. I just mix it with juice, milk, or ice tea because the taste is so bad.

Originally Posted by Mags

These may help:

My SARMs log
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...s4-doasge.html

Soz, dude, I've only ever skimmed through these threads; thought they would've had the info you were after. Good luck with it, I'm hopeing SARMs are going to be the Utopian anabolic.

Didsky, keep us posted about your results. We need more logs about SARMs.

Didsky I read in another thread you are a piolt correct me if Im wrong. Be carfull with this stuff the vison issues are for real in the majority of users from what I have read. I have a close freind who is experienceing terrible night vision. But plese keep us posted on your sarms gains and side effects.

"SARMs are almost 100% absorbed orally, but aren’t liver toxic like most oral steroids are. I took one milliliter each day, or 100 milligrams (this is slightly over 1mg/kg of bodyweight in my case). This is the dose most comparable to a replacement dose of testosterone, and enough to see results."

Source:
SARMS vs Testosterone | Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators

Originally Posted by Mags

These may help:

My SARMs log
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...s4-doasge.html

What happend to this guys log? He hasn't posted on this site since his last entry back in November.
Not a good sign.

I'll post if there's anything worth while to report. I'm just finishing up week one at 50mg per day. Nothing earth shattering yet. Bumping it up to between 75mg to 100mg next week.

Originally Posted by Didsky

Hi , just received S4 SARM,
Iknow htis is for oral use, but no instruction about how to use it... any one has already experienced it?
Is it safe?

There is a reason why there are no instructions; these compounds are sold as "research chemicals" meaning not for human consumption. It's a way for this company to sell products that they have not developed and therefore avoid a patent infringement lawsuit. SARM-S4 is a patented pharmaceutical currently stalled out in Phase-II clinical trials. The compound is called Ostarine and is currently under development by Merck and GTx. The highest clinical dose used in those Phase-II studies was only 3 mg. So unless you feel comfortable taking an experimental drug at 20 to 30x the dose that the FDA has approved for clinical trials you may want to reconsider your game plan.

are you serious, the maxium experimented is only 3 mg?
So I guess I will take it at 3 per day, I don't want to become blind or even worse, I have used it now for 3 days at 50 mg per day, I don't feel any change, no side effect so far, but I didn't know that actually nobody can tell you the truth about how to use it and when to use it i which quantity
What do you use yourself NJ Surfer to have such an incredible body?
I started 3 weeks ago a cycle of HGH from Hygetropin, I hope that it will give nice results

The other logs I've read did 100mg/day up to 225mg/day. Their vision came back to normal after about 5 days of last dosage.

I'm not recommending doing that dosage, I'm just saying that it's not a permanent damage.

As far as long term effects, nobody knows but there's a lot out there that nobody knows like viagra.

Originally Posted by Didsky

are you serious, the maxium experimented is only 3 mg?
So I guess I will take it at 3 per day, I don't want to become blind or even worse, I have used it now for 3 days at 50 mg per day, I don't feel any change, no side effect so far, but I didn't know that actually nobody can tell you the truth about how to use it and when to use it i which quantity
What do you use yourself NJ Surfer to have such an incredible body?
I started 3 weeks ago a cycle of HGH from Hygetropin, I hope that it will give nice results

I don't use any drugs or anabolics. I'm a chemist and can't help but to find the anabolic section very interesting. I wish that was my picture but I am on way to getting that ripped, naturally. The picture is from a cult surfing movie of the character Matt Johnson (played by Jan-Michael Jincent who, by the way, had his life destroyed by drugs).

Anyways, your always taking a risk with anything that's not natural and even more so by buying experimental compounds off the black market. Most of this shit is made in China or India by unethical companies. I'm sure plenty of people have used it with no problems but I wouldn't want to be that one expection. I'm not trying to be a dick I just don't think most people understand all the potential risks involved. Here is some of the fine print on the suppliers website, a bit scary, it will make you think twice:

...Buyer acknowledges that the products have not been tested by supplier for safety and efficacy in food, drug, and medical device, cosmetic, commercial or any other use.....ALL products and services offered are for RESEARCH purposes ONLY. Under NO circumstances shall/should ANY of these materials be used for recreational purposes nor human consumption! All customers are ASSUMED to be legal researchers or licensed researchers. IF you or your affiliates are NOT then WE DO NOT KNOW THIS and you will be held liable for FRAUD/DECEIT

Thought I'd throw a report out there.
I worked out last night and so far after a week and a half I've experienced no noticeable gains. My appetite is up. libido is great. Unfortunately nothing is kicking in as far as strength gains. Just bumped dosage up to 100mg split daily.
I'm going to give it another two weeks before hanging it up on SARMs

if something goes wrong, what the fuck do you do to fix it?

Originally Posted by j-pet

if something goes wrong, what the fuck do you do to fix it?

Stop doing it.

Originally Posted by rahaas

Stop doing it.

well I hope 'stop doing it' reverses the testicle growth on your chin

I am taking 50 mg per day split in two one am and one pm, so far no troubles of the vision, but still don't feel any change in my work out... keep you informed...

Originally Posted by j-pet

well I hope 'stop doing it' reverses the testicle growth on your chin

GICH!

Boys 100mg which is slightly over the 1mg per kg body weight seams to be the magic number for me. It was a good night in the gym last night.

Yea 100mg seems to be what gets people going with the strength gains.