Thread: h-drol / diabetes

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thanks for the reply, man. i appreciate it. i'm glad to hear that. running that mild of a cycle (25-50-50-50) what supplements would you recommend me taking along with the cycle and the pct.

when would be the best time(s) to take the h-drol. i get up at 5am, roll out of the bed and go straight to the gym.

i was diagnosed with low testosterone a while back. my dr. has me injecting 1ml of test cypionate (200mg) per month. i actually do 1/2 every other week. that gets me into normal range. should i continue that while i cycle the h-drol, or not.

thanks again

Originally Posted by klc9100

thanks for the reply, man. i appreciate it. i'm glad to hear that. running that mild of a cycle (25-50-50-50) what supplements would you recommend me taking along with the cycle and the pct.

when would be the best time(s) to take the h-drol. i get up at 5am, roll out of the bed and go straight to the gym.

i was diagnosed with low testosterone a while back. my dr. has me injecting 1ml of test cypionate (200mg) per month. i actually do 1/2 every other week. that gets me into normal range. should i continue that while i cycle the h-drol, or not.

thanks again

I ran a very successful cycle of h-drol. I split my dose throughout the day, every 3-4 hours (although I was running 100mg ED, so four caps ED).

The support supps. I used when on cycle were:

Milk Thistle and NAC - liver
Saw Palmetto for - prostate
Hawthorn Berry - blood pressure
Pantothenic Acid - skin

My PCT comprised:

Tribex test booster (Although I recently used T-911 which I preferred)
Retain2 (cortisol blocker. Not sure if they still make it. Anadraulic State would be a better option here)
Nolvadex
CEE


Many will say that was overkill. However, I was running a high dose of 100mg ED for 7-8 weeks. And I stacked it with 1-T for the first four, so it was apt for my cycle.

With your cycle, you could probably get away with an OTC PCT, but I'd have nolva on hand just in case. You could probably ignore the Hawthorn and Palmetto, but H-drol is liver toxic so definitely take Milk Thistle (and if yu have the money, NAC). You're best bet is to get a supp. called Cycle Support: that has every support supp. you'd need all in one.

As for staying on the cypionate during, I think that would only help. However I could be wrong. That also leaves me unsure regarding your PCT if you're already on HRT. Is PCT 'void' if one's own system is already reliant on exogenous hormones? I don't know. Pirate will be the better man to explain all about that.

thank you for your thoughts man.

what are some good OTC PCT's? i have milk thistle and hawthorn berry already. should i take them for a while before i start cycle, or can i just start them all at the same time? the test injections are a big question. i was thinking it would help too, but i don't really know much about all this stuff. maybe pirate will swing back in with some info on that for me. i can't decide when to dose either. if i take one when i get up (5am) and then go straight to the gym, will it be in my system in time to help my workout? if i take it before bed, i'm scared it will jack me up and i won't be able to sleep. also, would it still help me 7 hrs. later, when i get up to go to the gym anyway? the label doesn't say if it should be taken with food or not. does it matter? i was going to just take 1 pill a day for the 1st week. is that smart, since i've never taken anything like this before, or should i just start with two? i will not take more than 2 a day during the cycle. i'm jusy really struggling with the dose times. i can't workout in the afternoons like it seems most people do. i usually get up, take creatine, go to gym, then protein shake afterwards. i've read that there is no point taking creatine during cycle, start it back with pct. what do you think about that? i also have zma & dhea. i've never even opened the bottles. should i work either/both of them in somewhere?

sorry about all the questions guys

thanks again -
kevin

pirate. . . . . anybody . . . . .

Originally Posted by klc9100

thank you for your thoughts man.

what are some good OTC PCT's? i have milk thistle and hawthorn berry already. should i take them for a while before i start cycle, or can i just start them all at the same time? the test injections are a big question. i was thinking it would help too, but i don't really know much about all this stuff. maybe pirate will swing back in with some info on that for me. i can't decide when to dose either. if i take one when i get up (5am) and then go straight to the gym, will it be in my system in time to help my workout? if i take it before bed, i'm scared it will jack me up and i won't be able to sleep. also, would it still help me 7 hrs. later, when i get up to go to the gym anyway? the label doesn't say if it should be taken with food or not. does it matter? i was going to just take 1 pill a day for the 1st week. is that smart, since i've never taken anything like this before, or should i just start with two? i will not take more than 2 a day during the cycle. i'm jusy really struggling with the dose times. i can't workout in the afternoons like it seems most people do. i usually get up, take creatine, go to gym, then protein shake afterwards. i've read that there is no point taking creatine during cycle, start it back with pct. what do you think about that? i also have zma & dhea. i've never even opened the bottles. should i work either/both of them in somewhere?

sorry about all the questions guys

thanks again -
kevin

Some advise preloading the likes of Milk Thistle for two weeks beforehand to prepare your liver etc. However, some think this simply causes the methylated hormone to be broken down even further, making it less effective. It's up to you whether you'd rather stay safe and preload, or try and keep the PH as potent as possible while being precautious on cycle. An all-in-one support supplement would be best as you get decent dosages of everything you need for a lot cheaper than if you had to buy it all separately.

Most supp. companies offer OTC PCT products. There's Novedex, 6-OXO ( I think), Formadrol to name a few. And there are plenty of test boosters out there, too: I recently used T-911 after my 1-Andro cycle and that was effective for me.

I took the H-drol with food and spaced my doses equally over the day to try and keep them level in my system. I suggest you do the same when you start taking more than one cap a day. As for interrupting sleep, I used to take one in the evenings with a meal (can't remember if it was around 9pm or 11pm) and it never affected mine. In fact, I slept like a baby on that cycle. And when I did wake up I was alert and ready to go. I don't see anything wrong with taking it first thing in the morning.

Lastly, keep the creatine for PCT and maybe add some HMB if you have some extra cash. Use your ZMA for PCT, too. As for DHEA, it might be better to use this on cycle rather than as part of PCT. Again, that's something I'm not sure on. Also, as tempting as it is to keep addingbits to your cycle, try and keep it is as simple as possible for the moment.

ok, i think i will just start the milk thistle & hawthorne berry along with the cycle.

if i take it 1st thing in am, before my workout, it would be on an empty stomach. what i'm thinking now is maybe taking 1 with supper about 8:30pm and the other one about 7:45am with breakfast. with my workout being at 5am, would it be in my system good and be beneficial?

would biotest tribex and zma work for pct, or should i take more? should i continue taking the milk thistle & hawthorne berry during pct also?

i think i'm about ready to go for it. i still need to know if i should shoot the test during the cycle though.

Dose hdrol twice daily and keep your test dosing constant throughout. You don't need to do PCT, as you are on testosterone replacement therapy. Your dose of testosterone is way too low. You need a new doctor for that. Getting the right testosterone replacement will do much more for you than Hdrol.