Thread: AI & HCG information needed

UPDATE:

Just seen doc. Was prescribed Test C, 200/mg every 2 weeks. Please advise on the original post with this in mind. I'm thinking strongly about adding my own 200mg Test C every other week (to bring total to 200mg/wk)

AI"s and HCG should be run. Your estro is too high even without aas.

Originally Posted by heavyiron.

AI"s and HCG should be run. Your estro is too high even without aas.

Thank Heavy...

What about dosage on AI & HCG? Proviron or arimidex? When should I start? I received first dose this morning and I'll be getting pinned every other Monday morning. And I'm thinking about running an additional 200mg on opposite Mondays. Should I split it or just shoot it all on Mondays?

Thanks again for your help, Bro...

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Thank Heavy...

What about dosage on AI & HCG? Proviron or arimidex? When should I start? I received first dose this morning and I'll be getting pinned every other Monday morning. And I'm thinking about running an additional 200mg on opposite Mondays. Should I split it or just shoot it all on Mondays?

Thanks again for your help, Bro...

Definately add the extra test in the off weeks.

10mg Aromasin eod.

500iu HCG twice weekly.

I have Arimidex coming... So .5/mg EOD?

Also, I was thinking of skipping my own test the week before my check-up because he'll be running more bloodwork. Is this a good idea so my test levels aren't too high?

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I have Arimidex coming... So .5/mg EOD?

Also, I was thinking of skipping my own test the week before my check-up because he'll be running more bloodwork. Is this a good idea so my test levels aren't too high?

Run the Aromasin instead, it's fucking fantastic.

I'm trying to change my order now to aromasin. Why's it better than adex?

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I'm trying to change my order now to aromasin. Why's it better than adex?

Gimme a sec and I'll post a study I read from another board but for me personally it keeps my water retention down to nearly nothing, I feel fantastic (not so much on adex), the fact that aromatization is cancelled out completely because of the way Aromasin works on the estrogen receptors etc......... also Aromasin has zero effect on cholesterol

I've been doing a lot of research on Aromasin lately, I find it fascinating.

Aromasin (exemestane) is a steroid-al AI - an irreversible aromatase inhibitor ... great for controlling estrogen "during cycle" and "PCT" ...

But, what else does it do ???
Good reading....

ABSTRACT FROM JOURNAL OF CLINICAL ENDOCRONOLOGY AND METABOLISM

Suppression of estrogen, via estrogen receptor or aromatase blockade, is being investigated in the treatment of different conditions. Exemestane (Aromasin) is a potent and selective irreversible aromatase inhibitor. To characterize its suppression of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK) properties in males, healthy eugonadal subjects were recruited. In a cross-over study, 12 were randomly assigned to 25 and 50 mg exemestane daily, orally, for 10 d with a 14-d washout period. Blood was withdrawn before and 24 h after the last dose of each treatment period. A PK study was performed (n = 10) using a 25-mg dose.

RESULTS :

The 25- and 50-mg doses of daily exemestane had comparable effects in suppressing circulating estrogen concentrations, with 38 ± 24% (mean ± SD; P = 0.002 vs. baseline) and 32 ± 29% (P = 0.008) decreases in estradiol concentrations, 71 ± 12% (P < 0.0001) and 74 ± 12% (P < 0.0001) decreases in estrone concentrations, and 45 ± 27% (P = 0.004) and 51 ± 20% (P = 0.02)

BUT THERE'S MORE

There was an increase in circulating testosterone concentrations after both 25 mg (60 ± 58%; P = 0.001) and 50 mg (56 ± 48%; P = 0.003) exemestane. Androstenedione concentrations were increased as well after 25 mg (32 ± 36%; P = 0.004) and 50 mg (47 ± 59%; P = 0.052) exemestane, respectively (Fig. 1Go and Table 2Go).

SHBG concentrations were decreased by 21 ± 7% (P = 0.0003) and 19 ± 39% (P = 0.18) at 25 and 50 mg exemestane, respectively.

Free testosterone concentrations were increased by 117 ± 74% (P = 0.0001) and 154 ± 95% (P < 0.0001) at both doses, due to the decrease in SHBG and the increase in total testosterone.

THE ICING ON THE CAKE !

There were no changes in circulating serum triglycerides, cholesterol, or LDL or HDL cholesterol concentrations with either dose of exemestane.

I couldn't change my order in time. So I'll run adex at .5mg EOD. I'll acquire some aromasin at some point. Will there be any issues with changing?

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I couldn't change my order in time. So I'll run adex at .5mg EOD. I'll acquire some aromasin at some point. Will there be any issues with changing?

if you do change, adex to aromasin is ideal since aromasin reduces the chances of estro rebound.