Thread: cycle check and advise...

Originally Posted by gearhead10

hi im new to this forum but thought i'd pick your brains for some info if i could. I'll start with some info on me: im 24, 190lbs at 7%bf. been lifting for at least 6 years and have 1 previous cycle under my belt. i ran test e for 10 weeks at 500mg/week. i ran arimadex 4th week in at .5mg per day then finished with nolva pct 20/20/10/10. i had no problems. i finished that around 6 months ago.

i am looking at doin a second cycle soon and going a little heavier and adding equipoise instead of deca because leaner gains and less trouble on cycle.

i have a cycle half planned out i was just looking to see what anyone could come up with before i post my cycle.

thanks in advance.

you start

Well mr gear, it depends on what you are trying to accomplish (goals). Strength, Size, Cut, ext

i am trying to increase size, strength and by the end of it i'd like to be cut too.

i was thinking of running a 14week cycle because the equipoise is a slow starter. unsure if i should pyrimid or not though. Is there any point in pyrimiding a cycle??

Better off running Test and D-bol instead of the Eq. Especially being your 2nd cycle. Eq really needs to run at a min of 16 weeks and at a dose of at least 800mgs to get results.

12 week

1-2 Test C or E @ 1000mgs a week
3- 12 Test @ 500mgs 250 2 x a week
4- 8 D-bol 40 -60 mg a day
1- 12 Adex .5mg 2 or 3 x a week ( increase with sides)
14 - 18 Nolva 40/40/20/20 If you little problems last PCT with lower dose then maybe 20/20/10/10

I believe you meant 1-12 test e or test c, other than that it sounds good.

nah i think he meant 1-2 cos after that he dropped it back down to 500mgs a week after that.

i was trying to stay away from orals if i could. the only oral im interested in taking would proviron at the end maybe. this is what i was thinking of doing.

week 1-4
600mg per week test e
300mg per week eq

week 4-8
800mg per week test e
500mg per week eq

week 8-12
600mg per week test e
300mg per week eq

week 12-14
600mg per week test prop

then 40/20/10/10 nolva
start hcg from week 6 @ 1000iu per week (2 shots 500iu)
arimadex from week 4 or as needed through till end of pct.


any good plz critique

Originally Posted by Ric.n.Cal

Better off running Test and D-bol instead of the Eq. Especially being your 2nd cycle. Eq really needs to run at a min of 16 weeks and at a dose of at least 800mgs to get results.

12 week

1-2 Test C or E @ 1000mgs a week
3- 12 Test @ 500mgs 250 2 x a week
4- 8 D-bol 40 -60 mg a day
1- 12 Adex .5mg 2 or 3 x a week ( increase with sides)
14 - 18 Nolva 40/40/20/20 If you little problems last PCT with lower dose then maybe 20/20/10/10

nice stack . . havent seen test/dbol quite outlined like that

Originally Posted by weldingman

I believe you meant 1-12 test e or test c, other than that it sounds good.

No it was written the way it should be run. The first two weeks front load, pushes up the levels. Then back down the last ten weeks. If you wanted you could run the D-bol weeks 8-12, but that might hinder a newbies PCT. I would even go as far as dropping the Test down the last two weeks to 300mgs. Tapering for PCT. Most gains under normal dosing quit after about ten weeks.

why would running the D-bol weeks 8-12 hinder a newbies PCT?

Originally Posted by j-pet

why would running the D-bol weeks 8-12 hinder a newbies PCT?

At the tail end of the cycle there it will still have some half life left in your system of D-bol. More for the PCT to deal with. That is also why I recommended taping the test.
I started doing cycles in the mid 1980's and at that time the avalibility of Clomid or Novla was more differcult. We would taper off, or just bridge. I know that someone is going to say when your shut down your shut down, this is true but for most there will start up again eventually on there own. It is easier to restart whan your receptors aren't saturated so much.

Tapering is not needed if PCT meds are employed. All tapering does in this case is prolong the cycle for no reason.

How about.

Test E @ 500mgs EW 1-12
EQ@ 600mgs EW 1-12

I would front load for the first 2 weeks, by that i mean test at 750mgs EW, and EQ at 900mgs. I double the dose when front loading but im a lil older and been doing it longer.

600mgs of EQ will yeild good results, it will kick in for most people around week 6, major pumps, leaner gains, and sick vascularity, EQ is my Fav i want to run it year round.

i don't quite understand. y run the eq higher than the test wont that cause unwanted effects like too much estregen and a limp dick.

Eq doesnt convert to estro like test does, it also doesnt cause half the problems that deca does. As long as there isnt a huge gap between the test and eq dosage then there wont be any problems. Ive done this while cruising with zero issues, so as a cycle goes i wouldnt see it causing any issues either. Im sure victor or some of the other guys on here would proly say the same, but i could be wrong.

well i'd like to hear what heavyiron and victor and any others with great experience. i'd like to know if im better running the test higher than the eq or if i can run it closer together so i can increase the eq

Eq does not really do much for me so I see no problem running the dose a little higher.

Originally Posted by gearhead10

well i'd like to hear what heavyiron and victor and any others with great experience. i'd like to know if im better running the test higher than the eq or if i can run it closer together so i can increase the eq

General concenus of Eq is that results come in higher doses such as 800 to 1000mg ea week and running it longer then 12 weeks.

If you had more cycle experience i would say run both at 800mgs each, but its not always a great idea to jump up your dosages that quick, its better to work your way up over time so you know how its going to effect you.

ok i got another question, would i be able to take winny at the end of cycle or is that not recomended, should i just stick to the test and eq?