If you dont want a better chance of getting high BP. you may want to get ur diet in check and lose a bit more bf% first. and your pct is no good IMO....wheres the clomid or nolva?

I will first start by letting u all know a little background. I am 25 i am 5ft8in tall 210lbs 17-18% BF with digital callipers. I am looking to lean bulk and stay away from the harshest side that AAS have to offer. I have done one cycle before and that was a yr. ago, it was TEST E 500mg/wk for 8wks with D-BOL 20mg/day for first 4wks and post cycled with Protein Factories Posty Cycle and Unleashed. I want to have the strength gains and feeling of well being back from using AAS but what i don't want is the water retention, the high BP and the Bunked up Cholesterol for long after i stop. With that said i plan on doing this:
D-Bol WKS 1-4 15-20mg/day
Primo WKS 1-10 400mg/wk (shoot M,F)
TEST PROP wks 5-10 300mg/wk (shoot M,W,F)
ADEX .5mg WKS 5-12 for Anti-E and Post cycle
Let me explain why I chose a cycle like this.
1. D-Bol will provide some mass and immediate strength gains and motivation to hit the gym harder.
2.I don't want to use any long esters incase sides do come up and it will make recovery faster and easier.
3.I don't want to shoot prop 3days a wk for 10wks, Hence the D-bol, it is a form of test so i will be essentially running test the whole cycle.
4. I know Primo is expensive but you get what you pay for and EQ brings some water retention and extreme appetite and on a lean bulk i want to avoid that ravenous hunger and extra water retention, Hence the PRIMO.
So I am ready and open to suggestions and what you all think about my choices.
If you dont want a better chance of getting high BP. you may want to get ur diet in check and lose a bit more bf% first. and your pct is no good IMO....wheres the clomid or nolva?
Last edited by Hammer-She-Rides; 02-01-2010 at 11:48 AM. Reason: wrong

Well i will run the Adex with the test prop for wks 5-10 then wks 11-14 i will run Nolva at 40,20,20,10 for PCT. The Adex will be .5mg every other day as i think .5/day would be too much with the Prop at only 300mg/wk. Adex is also know to stimulate LH @ roughly 60% so I will be running it with the test to help my post cycle transition to Nolva and recovery go much smoother and faster.
oh ok...i would run the adex ed at .25 and i would also run the prop at week 1 and get rid of the dbol since the prop is such a fast acting ester.

The whole thing is with the D-Bol is i just don't want to pin 3days a wk for 10 straight wks. That's the only reason for the D in the first 4wks. or i guess i could just avoid the D and run Prop starting on wk 4-10 and then start PCT with Nolvadex. I want to use fast acting esters incase i come into unwanted sides and i'm also impatient and don't want to wait for the PRIMO to kick in and i know it won't be substantial when it does. I just wanted to be on some form of fast acting androgen the whole cycle without pinning constantly throughout the 10wks.

I just makes more sense to just do 8 weeks of test prop and tren ace, it kicks in immediatly and its much cheaper than what your trying to do, and it will help get your bodyfat down a little. A little bit goes a long way with those two.

thanks downtown. would 300mg prop for 8wks with 400mg primo 10wks be a decent lean bulk cycle with decent strength increases ?
Test prop 10 to 12 weeks at 400mg a week. Tren 300 to 400mg a week 8 to 10 weeks. winny last 6 weeks 50mg ed
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Primo is really for cutting, is very good at preserving muscle not so much for building it though. But prop and tren would be a cycle thats good for your specific goals, and you dont really need alot either. Also the doses you plan on using for primo wouldnt yeild much anyways, the test prop would proly bump your strength a little, but the primo is a complete waste here.
So if I ran prop for 8 wk @ 500mg and wk 9 - 12 run prop @ 200mg and primo @300mg will I get ripped?
Man it depends on your genetics, diet, trainning. Why would you stop at 8wk at 500mg and then 9thru12wks 200mg of prop? BTW if you don't want water retention dont do d-bol and BP will go up anyway.
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D-bol is not a form of test. It has a C1-C2 double bond and is 17 alpha alkylated. Those modifications give it a unique biological activity that is different from testosterone. You logic for this cycle is a little bit twisted. You would be better off controlling estrogenic side effects with Adex or Aromasin. 400-500 mg of test C or Test E with 400 -500 mg of primobolin would be a good mild cycle. Add in 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day and your estrogen from the test will be or close to under control. D-bol is just going to get you into trouble if you have BP and cholesterol issues from the start. Crank up the proteins and cut carbs and saturated fats and you're golden.

Well i will probably just end up running Prop at 150mg on M,W,F with ADEX .5mg/day for 8wks and for PCT with Nolva 20mg/day and Aromasin 25mg/day for 4wks. That is simple and I am inpatient so i will just run the Prop b/c it's quick and i don't have to wait to see gains. I pin 2days a wk with TE so i think i can handle an extra pin every wk. I agree Primo would probably be a waste. I don't think i'm ready to run Tren for my second cycle, plus i hear it has tons of sides.
Tren is my candy right now
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