Thread: help please

Saw this on Steroid.com:

Originally Posted by KAEW44
No one said orals dont work, ofcourse they work thats why people buy them,but the valid argument is that most orals are toxic to the liver, expensive, and gains arent at all big compared to injectibles! that is wy they are a bad bang-for-the-buck and they can cause harsh sides in return for small gains! thats not worth it! Dbol is the only one that can gove massive size gains in a short time but no one ever kept more than half of the gains on it, quick come=quick go! And dbol has harsh sides, winstrol is harsh on the hairline and liver and if you train hard enough it will make you snap tendons! Anavar is the only one with lvery little/no sides but it compensates by not giving any mass gains, hardly any.
They all have their uses but doing them alone is a bad idea.

Dbol is the only one that can gove massive size gains.

Lets dont forget about Anadrol

Originally Posted by followraabs

in my job it would be almost impossible to pin.

What are you? An ass model?
I only know of one reason why guys won't pin. They don't have the balls.
If you're gonna do gear, party like the big boys or don't show up.

On a mg to mg comparison dbol is stronger than anadrol, im just putting it out there. The nitrogen retention of dbol alone makes anadrol look like baby asprin.

Dont get me wrong, i LOVE both, especially when used together

What kind of job do you have where it would be impossible to pin????? Answer that and i can prolly help ya out.

military,my unit has had many bitch fits here in iraq with this sort of stuff and we get checked for marks on our body.not only from gear but from injectible morphine.

Originally Posted by followraabs

call me a bitch but i have made the decision to do a oral only cycle.i know gains will not be as good,but in my job it would be almost impossible to pin.i am going for mass.can anyone tell me a good oral only cycle that will help me?

1) Age-26
2) Weight and Percent- BodyFat 190 lbs 10%bf
3) Years of Consistant Training experience-3 years
4) Previous Cycle experience-none
5) Training routine and Diet-6 days 1-chest/tries2-back/bies3-shoulders4-legs- 5-off-
6) Cycle Goals-mass

Ok... You're a bitch. Just f*ckin with ya, dude. Obviously (based on research only) pinning is the way to go so as not to crush your liver. But I have read a few 'oral only' cycles. I just don't know that anyone would recommend it.

Dianabol is a great oral cycle. 30mg daily for 8 weeks.

Hey Heavy,
Regarding the Dbol, what kind of gains can you: 1) expect after 8 weeks and 2) keep after the cycle is completed?

Originally Posted by FMJ

Hey Heavy,
Regarding the Dbol, what kind of gains can you: 1) expect after 8 weeks and 2) keep after the cycle is completed?

I imagine 10lbs in a newbie but nutrition, training and recovery must be dialed in.