
I am in rush to find a mass builder and ive researched everything under the sun and will someone please lend me some info on competitive edge labs D-Zine its non methylated and thats what im looking for it will be my first ph and i was wondering if it will be a good one to start with please someone enlighten me plus anyone who has used it please comment



You left out the rest of it:
i have to leave for family matters for a while.. and im a powerlifter and 19yrs old ya ik the whole 21 thing but its my choice to take them im not stupid and going to over dose them and not use a pct or support supp...my stats are max 315 bench 550sq 550 dead and im 5'8 and 190 and my goal is to put mass on and bulk like crazyNothing eggs and whole milk won't do for you at your age. Save your money, your liver will thank you.and my training routine is monday chest, tuesday back and shoulder,wensday off, thrusday tris bis, and friday legs, sat&sun off
-I know your words, just not together.


With the exception of H-drol,Iv'e always had more side effects from phs than any real gear I've run.
Ph's are god awful for the liver
Inzer Advanced
(Pump till you Puke).

what would you suggest then

silent bob please get real... you go and eat your eggs


Speaking of getting real.
You sir, get real.hey guys just wondering if this sounds like a good PCT for when im done with my cycle of winabol,
ive been told that taking novedex while cycling is pretty good too, what do you guys think from personal experience
You know what, you're totally right. Go right ahead. Winabol/D-zine whatever you want to add to your Noxplode/Cellmass/Novedex stack. You may want to think of adding Neovar and LHJO to your stack. GICH.
I'm done with this kid.
-I know your words, just not together.

SilentBob187 is right on. At 19 he shouldn't be considering this and no way should get any other advise but train & eat.


Seriously. Steroids are used by those who have reached thier genetic potential and need a little extra boost. This guys 19. He's got plenty of test coursing through him to make huge gains naturally. Sounds like a lazy ass looking for an easy way out. Wake up kid.. you still gotta put in the work regardless of using ph's, steroids, etc.


Steroids won't make you bigger. FOOD makes you bigger. Steroids just shuttle more of that "big" to muscle than to fat. You still have to eat or you will NOT grow.
Powerlifters don't do "arm day" btw; nor do they use bodypart splits. How about you post up your current diet so we can help you make some gains?
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yo listen im 20 yrs old i can make my own choices i am well aware of what phs do to your body and the effects i dont need to be reminded i ask questions whats good or if someone has run a certain cycle because i cant find any info on it people like silent bob who follow me and post things from forum to forum need to mind there own buisness and people who give insight thank you but ik powerlifers dont to arm days by the way but im 198 and bench 385 and deadlift 600 and sq 550 i think i can afford to do an arm day lol

oh and silent bob you got me mixed up with someone else dumd shit why would i want to take Winabol a hardening and cutting ph when i want to bulk im not a homo lol....Noxplode/Cellmass/Novedex stack why would i waste my time with bsn or aka bullshit nutrition before you can talk to me get your shit straight first get real![]()
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Bob, along as the others here gave you some solid advice as far as PHs and your age is concerned.
Now, since you don't like the advice placed before you, go elsewhere until you hear an answer that you would like to/want to hear...however wrong and harmful it may be.
I mean...like you said, you are 20 years old and it's your right to act like a complete fool and fuck up your own body. Many of us here have been in this game for over 20 years...yeah, since before your ass was born.
If you really want help, post up your diet like Built suggested and work from there. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just responding to one.
/V

im not being a dick i dont want people to be my care taker or play mommy or daddy if you want to respond to the post i am greatful you want to lend advice and ik there has been people in the game longer than me and i respect that but when people start to be a nuisance by posting crap from anabolic minds to hear on this forum like bob then maybe you would be fed up to but my diet in check and ive gone over and fixed it many times but thank you anyway

What a little shit! Definitly tell your age by your rebelious attitude! Your not the boss of mmme, nanna, nanna, boo, boo stick your do do! Bahahaha

haha please go jerk off rodney.. and your lil saying is cute i bet your boyfriend rodney and bob like it homo and lil shit i bet im bigger and stronger than you so you go run along a play with your lil dick![]()
I wonder why people giving advise to help others, turns out to be a bashing. Listen, learn and be humble and use your on jugement. No one is trying to be your nanny. Some guys on this board know a lot of shit about aas and trainning and supps. Just listen and learn. Iv been in this game well over 20 years, I know a hell of a lot ,but I dont know everything.
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thank you weldingman finally someone who sees that people need to mind there own buisness and give advice and not try and tell others what to do


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who cares if he runs phs or not its his choice if you care that much give him some helpful advice on how to run the safest cycle he can

yea or pmag is a good ph for beginners well, ironfreak that silent bob is a dick sucker he started this whole arguement because he just wouldnt give you easy advice and wanted to put his nose into other peoples buisness but whatever hes gay hope you the best of luck ironfreak
I disagree. Silent Bob simply answered a question that was asked by the OP. I'm so sick of reading threads from 18, 19, 20's that claim to have done there research, and insist that they "know" everything, yet post threads asking for advice, and then have the balls to insult the people that are trying to help simply because they don't agree with the advice being given. You asked for some advice, Silent Bob gave it (as well as others) and you 2 fukn clowns get pissy because he "put his nose in your business"..Are you on fukn drugs?? You guys piss me off to no end. If you don't want to hear an honest answer, then don't ask the question. Built asked you to post your diet..did you?? No, because you say, "my diet is good, but thank you". WTF is that? That's YOU wanting to be the expert. You want to come across as a hard ass who knows what he's doing, yet YOU are the one asking for advice. Bottom line, you are going to do what you will..do your own research. If your man enough to do Ph's or aas, then man up and make your own fukn decisions. fukn punk. NOW, you wanna come back at ME?? Give it your best shot bro.![]()
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