Cemproducts.com


Test/Deca cycle question

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    10

    Test/Deca cycle question

    Let me start with my stats, I'm 45, 5'11" and weigh in at 242. been lifting pretty much all my life but only started anabolics about 3 years ago. i usually just run cycles of test at about 1000mg per week. I just started a new cycle of 800 Test and 600 Deca. I want to bulk up now, then switch off to a cutting cycle after. I was talking to one of the "bigger" guys at the gym yesterday and he asked me why I was taking so much. He said that 500 Test and 200 Deca would be just fine and any more than that I would just be wasting my money. I don't want to sound naive, maybe I am, but wouldn't the more juice you do help your muscles grow bigger? I want to grow, not stagnate.

    thanks for any input guys!

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    105
    Rep Points
    11323

    Is this your first cycle? Have you thought about PT?

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    10

    It's not first cycle, I've run many cycles of just test, test and masteron, test and EQ, and some of test and d-bol, but this is my first test/deca stack. I have plenty of Letro on hand for the occasional nipple soreness I sometimes get, and clomi for PCT. i've run cycles of test at 1000mg/week. I figured with the deca I can cut that back to 800, and do 600 deca. I use the Supertest 400 and deca 300, so I was planning on doing 2 CC's of each per week. I'm just wondering if I really need that much, or is it overkill? If I can get the same results with less of each then i'm all for that. oh, also I was planning on running this cycle for 12 - 15 weeks.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER

    quark's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    706
    Rep Points
    9379197

    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Let me start with my stats, I'm 45, 5'11" and weigh in at 242. been lifting pretty much all my life but only started anabolics about 3 years ago. i usually just run cycles of test at about 1000mg per week. I just started a new cycle of 800 Test and 600 Deca. I want to bulk up now, then switch off to a cutting cycle after. I was talking to one of the "bigger" guys at the gym yesterday and he asked me why I was taking so much. He said that 500 Test and 200 Deca would be just fine and any more than that I would just be wasting my money. I don't want to sound naive, maybe I am, but wouldn't the more juice you do help your muscles grow bigger? I want to grow, not stagnate.

    thanks for any input guys!
    To a given point this is true. Beyond that there is an increase in the probability of sides, so the risks start to outweigh the rewards. Everyone is different though, as not all people respond the same to AAS. IMO I don't think 200mg ew of Deca would do much more than lube your joints. If it were me (just cause I know me, I would run 750 test and 400 deca. Some (like me) are more prone to progesterone gyno, that's why I would stick to 400. But to answer your question directly, if you've had multiple cycles I don't hink what you're doing is unreasonable.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER

    quark's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    706
    Rep Points
    9379197

    BTW, if that test is a multiple ester that includes prop you might consider adjusting the dosage and pin EOD to take advantage of the short lived esters.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    10

    Thanks J. I was thinking the same thing about the 200 deca. I don't think I would reep much benefit other than pain free joints as you mention. I was thinking maybe dropping back the deca to 450 (1.5CC) per week and keep running test at 800. I wonder if that would give me basically the same results as running 600 deca, while extending my supply a a few more weeks.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER

    quark's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    706
    Rep Points
    9379197

    I had extremely good luck with 400, but it was my third cycle. And again, everyone is different. You should also cut the deca a couple of weeks short of the test. Say if you're running test for 15 weeks cut the deca after week 13. You will be shut down hard with deca. Cutting the deca short will insure it is all out of your system prior to pct.

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    10

    I believe my SuperTest 400 it's made up like this:
    test e 50mg
    test c 50mg
    test decanoate 200mg
    test isocaprote 30mg
    test prop 30 mg
    phenylprop 40 mg

    i'm not running it eod, but rather 1CC twice per week. to be honest, until you mentioned the multiple ester with prop I never gave it a thought. I found the above info on the web. Dang, I never realized this. I've been doing every Monday and Friday, maybe I should thrown in a shot on Wednesday as well. The deca I plan on only doing once per week as I know it stays with you longer at a high range.

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    NJ, USA
    Posts
    14
    Rep Points
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by jchappj View Post
    I had extremely good luck with 400, but it was my third cycle. And again, everyone is different. You should also cut the deca a couple of weeks short of the test. Say if you're running test for 15 weeks cut the deca after week 13. You will be shut down hard with deca. Cutting the deca short will insure it is all out of your system prior to pct.
    Yeup, I was already planning on running test a few weeks longer than the deca.

  10. #10
    Get outta my yard
    ELITE MEMBER

    Glycomann's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    in between
    Posts
    1,321
    Rep Points
    211581768


    You don't ned to inj EOD when ther is a little short ester in the mix. That's interweb pharmacology. twice a week is fine. The shorter esters will just get in faster so the area under the curve over the week after injection will have a little more test released in the first few days than if you just injected a mid length Enanthate or cypionate ester.

Similar Threads

  1. deca and test 400 chem question
    By lovethislife in forum Research Chemicals
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-24-2011, 05:44 PM
  2. test c and deca cycle
    By hammerfuk in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 08-20-2011, 08:48 AM
  3. Eq, test e, deca cycle question
    By Bnm in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 03-14-2011, 10:42 AM
  4. 1st cycle. test vs deca question.
    By jasone in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-22-2008, 07:39 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.