if your only going to run orals then id just stick to the anavar. Winny is not worth it without test, the joint pain would proly be crippling to the point of no training which would mean no physical changes.

I plan to do my first cycle soon. For now i want to stick to orals.I'm already 6'2,260 lbs at 14 percent bf. My nutrition plan is solid with near 400 grams protein almost all coming from solid meals and my training program aint too shabby either. I want to be ripped to the bone without losing mass or strenght as i've did in the past the natural way. A guy did recommend me 50 mg winstrol and 50 mg anavar per day ,does that sound good to all of you.

if your only going to run orals then id just stick to the anavar. Winny is not worth it without test, the joint pain would proly be crippling to the point of no training which would mean no physical changes.

I've heard about joint paint with winstrol,is there any way to diminish that!!! My guy,who is a god on your board, told me to run winstrol and anavar for like 6 weeks,and if i weren't cut enough after that, to continue the winstrol a while.I'm not that much into injectable, but with everything i learn recently maybe i could give a try on test E.Was the advice he told me b.s!!!Have you ever heard of Endolabs.

Winny and Anavar are a good start.
You don't always have to go for Test (especially in your 1st cycle).
I do agree that Test would boost your cycle.
Try this out. Give it a think over...
Week 1-6: Winny at 50mg/day
Week 1-6: Clen at 40mcg/day
Week 1-6: Anavar at 40mg/day
Week 1-6: Arimidex at 1mg/day
Week 1-6: Nolvadex at 20mg/day
Week 7: OFF
Week 8-16: Repeat the dosages of the above.
Eliminate the joint pain by using...
1000mg daily of EPA/DHA fish oil or cod liver oil.
1500mg to 3000mg of MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane) daily.
Glucosamine hydrochloride (hydrochloride is better than sulphate) at
500mg 3 times daily.
Happy Training

I already have the joint supps so no problem.I'll be looking for the antiaromatases(nolvadex and arimidex) .Are they expensive and that important with a low-dose oral cycle. Thanks for the comment and advice!!!!!

Im a female i just started my 1st cycle on winny any advise?

also can you combine clen and winny together as a stack?
and what are you planning for your pct? You could save the nolva for your pct, and use exemestane as an ai during your cycle.

No problem fredlabrute
I do think that the PCTs are important. Remember you may think that the dosages are low, but they are for a long period of time.

Hey karen141406
Checkout the sample cycle I posted earlier in this thread. Winny, clen, anavar are super together, alongside Arimidex and Nolvadex.
Happy training



also after i finish my first cycle how long do i have to wait to start another and also when taking a piss test how can i cheat the system?
Karen pm me.
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(Pump till you Puke).

I cant it wont let me its say i need 25 post before i can PM but um email me at karen.stephens@us.army.mil

hello can some one help here whats up with all you guys i need help advise some mentoring

is it okay to take 50mg seeing that i am a woman? also i have taken clen and it doesnt work for me also any advise again men.

Why are you being tested? Most jobs aren't testing for anabolics.


Karen, wait for BUILT to chime in as she really knows her stuff.
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