Thread: Contest Prep Cycle... help maybe?

been carb cycleing for 3 weeks now monday ill cut cals to around 2000 and go from there with my diet. waite 2 weeks then to clen/t3 . im runing prop 100 now for 20 days(just to load on my test im just coming back on) 1500mg test e a week then june ill go back to prop . runin tren run 6 weeks a win on the end 75mg ed . june I should be at 5 pct im 217 still . got my 5 point check today at almost 12 pct. Come june im a see what i need ill be 6 weeks out ill go from there

I go 100mgs of test prop, tren a, mast, eod, but your cycle looks pretty good to me.

Tren ace gives me high BP, so i like to keep it lower than my test ( i can do 5g's test with no issues). If I do my shot EOD then im proly going to drop below the light heavys cuz of the low cals. 4000cals a day is darn near maintainance for me, my metabolism is ridiculously high.

I have Clen and T3 but im not sure if i really wanna use them, cuz im proly going to be pretty unhealthy by the weeek of the show so im hesitant on adding anything else.

Hey bro whens the show? and where im in indy so not far from where you said you are is it local? and JMO I wouldnt take clenbuterol and albuterol at the same time at the end of a cycle youll be at the show shaking like a chihuaha with palsy

Definitely stick with the ed pins on the props and especially the tren A. Tren A ahould always be injected ED.

My only suggestion is to use aromasin rather than letro, unless you plan to run the letro all the way up to the day of the contest. As letro will cause an estrogen rebound upon cessation.

Oh, and why not use lasix rather than other stuff you got in there?

Why should Tren A always be injected ed? Whats your stats Dragon?

My stat's? Currently 5'8", 225lbs, ~10%BF Lt. brown Hair(shaved), beautiful green eyes, and a reddish blond goatee, an a pretty smile with perfect teeth

A side note, I have not worked out once since Dec. 23, 2009 due to the fact I was diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure. So my weight is down a bit and BF% is a litlle higher. At the time, I was 240lbs @ 8% and cutting.

The reason Tren A should be injected everyday is that it actually has a half life of approximately 36-48 hours depending on injection location and the ingredients used in the oil solution. S lets go with 48hrs. This causes a peak and a trough between injections. On average this is a difference of about 30%. Now when it is in injected daily, Tren A will give you an almost perfect even level of hormone levels by week 2. The more even the blood levels, the less sides and better gains.

Try it, you'll even feel and notice a difference. This is true with all aas. You never want to shoot exactly on it's half life.

depending on injection location and the ingredients, True and Iv tried Tren A ed plenty of times and its the same for me as eod, my tren is very raw at 100mg's. Test susp or winny now I do those pins ed and as for your stats I didnt need to know all that. Sorry to hear of your heart, hope its better.

Originally Posted by weldingman

depending on injection location and the ingredients, True and Iv tried Tren A ed plenty of times and its the same for me as eod, my tren is very raw at 100mg's. Test susp or winny now I do those pins ed and as for your stats I didnt need to know all that. Sorry to hear of your heart, hope its better.

You mean you weren't looking for a date? J/K

I was just messing around with ya by posting the little extra's And thank you for your kind remarks on my heart condition. I've got one mreo month to go before I go back to Stanford for another echo. This will show if there has been any improvements from the meds, and lifestyle, and diet change. There was no change last time at 6 weeks past first diagnosis. This next one will be 4 months. If I fon't get to an increase in my ejection fraction to 35%-it was ~20% initially and 6 weeks out- by 6 months of treatment, I will be getting an internal defibrillator(shock box).

I think a buddy of mine has heart failer or something, one day hes raring to go and then the next day he cant move no energy, crazy, he needs to go to a doc.

Definitely advise him to seek medical attention. It is very possible to catch a virus and rapidly get congestive heart failure. A lot of CHF is caused by a virus that attacks the heart.

Originally Posted by Dragon_MD

Definitely advise him to seek medical attention. It is very possible to catch a virus and rapidly get congestive heart failure. A lot of CHF is caused by a virus that attacks the heart.

Just wondering does CHF ever go away, you know cured?

Not typically. Depending on the type and cause of the CHF is going to determine the prognosis. Sometimes, especially when it is not too bad, treatment with medication alone can improve heart function. Some people do improve there injection fraction into the normal range and can maintain with proper meds. Other's may not respond at all as the heart may be permanently damaged to where it never will. Every case is completely different.

If you were not aware, CHF typically occurs in the left ventricle. An ejection fraction is the amount of blood that is squeezed out in to the aorta in relation to how much fills the chamber. A normal Left ventricular ejection fraction(LVEF) is 55-75%. Mine was approximately 20% when diagnosed and was last echo. The American heart association categorizes heart failure in 4 stages. Stage one an two being early stages, 3 and 4 advanced. They are based on severity of symptoms. I am currently at stage 4. Also, social security defines fully disabled form heart failure by having an EF of less than 30%. Which I do.

Like I said, If I don't get to 35% by June, I'll get an ICD/internal defibrillator, and maybe a bi-ventricular pace maker. If over time it does not get better or gets worse, then I will need a full heart transplant.

Originally Posted by Dragon_MD

Not typically. Depending on the type and cause of the CHF is going to determine the prognosis. Sometimes, especially when it is not too bad, treatment with medication alone can improve heart function. Some people do improve there injection fraction into the normal range and can maintain with proper meds. Other's may not respond at all as the heart may be permanently damaged to where it never will. Every case is completely different.

If you were not aware, CHF typically occurs in the left ventricle. An ejection fraction is the amount of blood that is squeezed out in to the aorta in relation to how much fills the chamber. A normal Left ventricular ejection fraction(LVEF) is 55-75%. Mine was approximately 20% when diagnosed and was last echo. The American heart association categorizes heart failure in 4 stages. Stage one an two being early stages, 3 and 4 advanced. They are based on severity of symptoms. I am currently at stage 4. Also, social security defines fully disabled form heart failure by having an EF of less than 30%. Which I do.

Like I said, If I don't get to 35% by June, I'll get an ICD/internal defibrillator, and maybe a bi-ventricular pace maker. If over time it does not get better or gets worse, then I will need a full heart transplant.

Damn , I hope all goes well. One more question what causes CHF Im sure a # of things.

I'm sure he meant EW.

Originally Posted by Richard Gears

Did you mean every week (typo) or is that every day?

Yeah, I noticed that as well and assumed (hoped) it's a typo.


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Originally Posted by weldingman

Damn , I hope all goes well. One more question what causes CHF Im sure a # of things.

CHF is really asymptom of other conditions rather than a disease its self. It can be caused by a number of things some of the most common are Viral infections affecting the heart and other parts of the cardiovascular system, smoking, chronic stimulant use (ie cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, ect) cardiac edema(fluid retention in the outer lining of the heart), pulmonary disorders(lung problems), genetic disorders(sometimes shows up for no apparent reason), and a few hundred other reasons. Hope that answers your question weldingman. AND GOOD LUCK DRAGON HOPE U GET YOUR EJECTION RATE UP

Originally Posted by jcar1016

CHF is really asymptom of other conditions rather than a disease its self. It can be caused by a number of things some of the most common are Viral infections affecting the heart and other parts of the cardiovascular system, smoking, chronic stimulant use (ie cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, ect) cardiac edema(fluid retention in the outer lining of the heart), pulmonary disorders(lung problems), genetic disorders(sometimes shows up for no apparent reason), and a few hundred other reasons. Hope that answers your question weldingman. AND GOOD LUCK DRAGON HOPE U GET YOUR EJECTION RATE UP

Yea just wondering my dad died of that they say, years ago, He didnt smoke, drink, no drugs and ate pretty desent, strange.

Originally Posted by weldingman

Yea just wondering my dad died of that they say, years ago, He didnt smoke, drink, no drugs and ate pretty desent, strange.

Sorry to hear that sounds like maybe viral or genetic causes bro

Originally Posted by Dragon_MD

Definitely stick with the ed pins on the props and especially the tren A. Tren A ahould always be injected ED.

My only suggestion is to use aromasin rather than letro, unless you plan to run the letro all the way up to the day of the contest. As letro will cause an estrogen rebound upon cessation.

Oh, and why not use lasix rather than other stuff you got in there?

I always go lasix but thats only cause its free LMAO

Originally Posted by tydb2010

I always go lasix but thats only cause its free LMAO

I don't think lasix is as big of a deal as a lot of people make it out to be. As long as you know what your doing, it is great to shed that water right before you need too.