Prostate cancer from TEST

**Mudge** · 09-02-2002, 01:38 PM

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I am an Operating Room nurse. Recently a 27year old body builder had protate surgery where I work. The cancer was beyond the prostate gland, and this means that we is a dead man. He may have up to five years to live if he either gets castrated OR takes medication that eliminates all test in his body.(prostate cancer feeds on test)

This poor fellow started using AAS at the age of 21. He told me that he has been doing two cycles per year, with the base as Test, at no more than 600mg/week and usually only 500.

After the dude was asleep on the operating room table the surgeon started to speak his mind. He said that "anyone that does not take Finasteride when using the anabolic steroid Testosterone is an absolute fool." He said that if this fellow was well informed in the use of finasteride he probably would not be here. He said that the use of testoterone, even at smallish doses "hugely increases your chance of contracting prostate cancer" The effects of test on the prostate are like a time bomb waiting to go off in later years. He also said that he has treated many men in their thirties and forties for prostate cancer that used Testosterone.

Dudes, we talk about finasteride in regard to preventing hair loss but we don't even mention the prostate. Some of you younger dudes, in your late teens and early twenties, have the "it will never happen to me complex"..I hope this is wake up call for you.

I watched my casterated father in law die of prostse Cancer at the age of 50....believe me dudes it was a terrible process. I saw him shrink from a strong lean 200 pounds at 5'-11" to a emasiated 150! AND THE PAIN!!!

TAKE FINASTERIDE! To reduce DHT in the prostate. Hair loss we can see BUT the effect on the prostate we cannot see so we tend to not even think about it...such is human nature.

If any of you duded have the following symtoms go to your doctor right away.......frequent night time urination, and or frequent urinations that do not seem to emplty your bladder, and, of course, blood in the urine.

One last thing .....deca is not hard on the prostate....maybe we should be using more deca dudes.

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**Mudge** · 09-02-2002, 01:40 PM

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Bill ("The Guru") Roberts, from Meso-rx.com, recommends finasteride with test and suggests a dose of 5mg when using a gram and 2.5mg when using 500 mg of test.

XYchromeDome · 09-29-2002, 06:37 PM

Geez, I've never heard of finasteride. The only thing I take for my prostate is Saw Palmetto. I'm guessing I'll have to get fina either from the "hook up" man, or my docter right?

Dr. Pain · 09-29-2002, 07:05 PM

Finasteride is not "fina"...."Fina" is what Trenbolone Acetate is called.

Really don't want to interject here...but

Blocking 5 alpha reductase's interaction with DHT to reduce BPH and eventually cancer is viable......

However...according to my collegue Micheal Mooney....Saw may also block up to 42% of Test receptors. Nettle root and Pygeum may be better. (I have posts on this at another board)

Additionally, Mudge..I know you are hooked up with Allopathic Medicine........but dying of cancer is needless to say the least. I don't want to write voumes here.....but in my business.....death from many cancers is preventable, curable and not necessary!

DP

**Mudge** · 09-29-2002, 07:54 PM

Hooked up? I'm very much a newbie to this stuff, but I find it interesting. I was doing research years ago to help a friend on cures done at home, and found doctors who cured thier own breast cancer etc with simple flax oil and cottage cheese, which was my first exposure to flax.

I wish I knew what site it was, one of the natural remedy type places. She had a HUGE lump, and nobody would take it out without removing a breast, so she was determined to see what she could do on her own and basically just did it dietarily. I swore I saved the site but somehow did not.

Ultimately what she said was that she was discusted that many doctors KNOW NOTHING and are TAUGHT NOTHING about diet, since the industry lives on DRUG MONEY.

**dg806** · 09-30-2002, 08:10 AM

Finasteride (Proscar) interferes with the effect of certain male hormones (androgens) on the prostate. This slows the growth of the prostate and can even cause it to become smaller, which may help improve the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

However, since prostate size does not always correspond to the severity of a man's symptoms, these medications will not give satisfactory results in every case.

Why It Is Used

Finasteride may be prescribed for men who have moderate symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

How Well It Works

Finasteride seems to work best in men with very enlarged prostates. Finasteride does not provide any significant improvement in symptoms for men with only slightly enlarged prostates.

The medication improves the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) in about half of those who take it. Generally, men notice a 30% improvement in their American Urological Association (AUA) symptom index score. When successful, the drug:

Decreases prostate size.
Increases the rate of urinary flow.

Doesn't look like this was intended to be used for prevention of cancer? And who knows that this guy got it from test? Lots of men get it that never done test. There are all sorts of bogus articles about steriods. They are dangerous to use no doubt. But as far as test or 1-test causing cancer, I don't buy it.

**Mudge** · 09-30-2002, 09:16 AM

People are quick to point the finger, there was another guy that insisted he got cataracts from using test some 20 years prior, after using I think on 4 seperate occasions.

09-29-2002, 06:37 PM	#3
XYchromeDome Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 38	Geez, I've never heard of finasteride. The only thing I take for my prostate is Saw Palmetto. I'm guessing I'll have to get fina either from the "hook up" man, or my docter right?
	I'm one of those bad things that happend to good people

09-29-2002, 07:54 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Hooked up? I'm very much a newbie to this stuff, but I find it interesting. I was doing research years ago to help a friend on cures done at home, and found doctors who cured thier own breast cancer etc with simple flax oil and cottage cheese, which was my first exposure to flax. I wish I knew what site it was, one of the natural remedy type places. She had a HUGE lump, and nobody would take it out without removing a breast, so she was determined to see what she could do on her own and basically just did it dietarily. I swore I saved the site but somehow did not. Ultimately what she said was that she was discusted that many doctors KNOW NOTHING and are TAUGHT NOTHING about diet, since the industry lives on DRUG MONEY.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-30-2002, 08:10 AM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,415	Finasteride (Proscar) interferes with the effect of certain male hormones (androgens) on the prostate. This slows the growth of the prostate and can even cause it to become smaller, which may help improve the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). However, since prostate size does not always correspond to the severity of a man's symptoms, these medications will not give satisfactory results in every case. Why It Is Used Finasteride may be prescribed for men who have moderate symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). How Well It Works Finasteride seems to work best in men with very enlarged prostates. Finasteride does not provide any significant improvement in symptoms for men with only slightly enlarged prostates. The medication improves the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) in about half of those who take it. Generally, men notice a 30% improvement in their American Urological Association (AUA) symptom index score. When successful, the drug: Decreases prostate size. Increases the rate of urinary flow. Doesn't look like this was intended to be used for prevention of cancer? And who knows that this guy got it from test? Lots of men get it that never done test. There are all sorts of bogus articles about steriods. They are dangerous to use no doubt. But as far as test or 1-test causing cancer, I don't buy it.
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09-30-2002, 09:16 AM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	People are quick to point the finger, there was another guy that insisted he got cataracts from using test some 20 years prior, after using I think on 4 seperate occasions.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

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09-29-2002, 07:05 PM	#4
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Finasteride is not "fina"...."Fina" is what Trenbolone Acetate is called. Really don't want to interject here...but Blocking 5 alpha reductase's interaction with DHT to reduce BPH and eventually cancer is viable...... However...according to my collegue Micheal Mooney....Saw may also block up to 42% of Test receptors. Nettle root and Pygeum may be better. (I have posts on this at another board) Additionally, Mudge..I know you are hooked up with Allopathic Medicine........but dying of cancer is needless to say the least. I don't want to write voumes here.....but in my business.....death from many cancers is preventable, curable and not necessary! DP

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