tren a + test e?

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 11:00 AM

Any suggestions on the following cycle? 1st time using tren so what do you think?

1-12 test.e -500mgs
1-6 tren a-50-75mgs EOD (or start week 4-10 whats best?)
pct- clomid/nolva, hcg.

or will test prop be better with the tren? At least i can do both in 1 pin then EOD. Prop ed though is better .yeah? never done prop either?

**VictorZ06** · 03-30-2010, 11:12 AM

Not bad! I would start week 4 with the tren, this way your test will have all ready kicked in and you will have both compounds working together (since the tren works super fast).

Test enan has a long ester, and tren ace has a short one. Oh, and I'd rather use the HGG during the cycle, not post. And if you are taking tren, try and avoid nolva..they don't work well together. Run an AI all the way through instead (adex, aromasin). I would also add some proviron at 50mg ED. Good luck.

/V

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 11:16 AM

Yeah understood victor,Thanks for your reply. Test .e will be ok with the tren then?

**VictorZ06** · 03-30-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by pitt

Yeah understood victor,Thanks for your reply. Test .e will be ok with the tren then?

One of my favorite combos!

/V

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 03:16 PM

Strange as a few people have told me its not a good ideal to run together. reason not known..

so bulk cycle is gonna look like this:

1-12-test.e@500mgs
4-10-tren a @ 50-75 EOD
1-12-prov@ 50mgs ED
1-12-adex/aromasin
14-18 PCT-clomid 150/100/100/50/50
HCG-during cycle

what dose would you say on the adex and the HCG. not done them before. Also will 50mgs tren EOD be ok ?(1st time for tren) not a waste no? ill up it to 75 if all is sound.

Cheers victor,great help..

**heavyiron** · 03-30-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

One of my favorite combos!

/V

Yup, great combo...

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 03:29 PM

Cheers heavyiron, any suggestions on my questions for the adex,hcg and the tren dose?

**heavyiron** · 03-30-2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by pitt

Cheers heavyiron, any suggestions on my questions for the adex,hcg and the tren dose?

First time on tren should be between 200-300mg weekly. I would throw the tren in at week 7 personally to keep gains rolling and use it through week 12. I only use Aromasin these days. 25 mg eod will be fine. HCG at 500iu twice weekly to maintain ITT levels on cycle.

**VictorZ06** · 03-30-2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by pitt

Strange as a few people have told me its not a good ideal to run together. reason not known..

so bulk cycle is gonna look like this:

1-12-test.e@500mgs
4-10-tren a @ 50-75 EOD
1-12-prov@ 50mgs ED
1-12-adex/aromasin
14-18 PCT-clomid 150/100/100/50/50
HCG-during cycle

what dose would you say on the adex and the HCG. not done them before. Also will 50mgs tren EOD be ok ?(1st time for tren) not a waste no? ill up it to 75 if all is sound.

Cheers victor,great help..

Don't run them together? That's ridiculous. You don't run tren alone…the only viable option would be to use it with test.

Your Clomid dose is a bit much. I run 200mg day one and two. Then I do 4 weeks 100/100/75/50.

HCG. I would suggest taking between 800-1000iu every week (split in two) starting week 2.

Tren. 50mg EOD is ok, I'd probably start at 75mg EOD…but that's your call. We all respond differently to tren and it's important that you dial in YOUR dose as your body sees fit. I run 75mg ED when I'm on, it's a bit much for most but I got used to it. Start with a low dose, if you can handle more…add it. This is one of the best things about tren ace, you can adjust your dose on the fly. You can't do that with tren enan…if you take too much, you are stuck dealing with the sides until it wears out.

Adex/Aromasin. With Adex, you should do ok with .5mg-1mg ed . Aromasin, I'd suggest 10mg ed. I have not had that much experience with Aromasin, I never had a problem with Adex so I always stuck with that. My next run, I plan to use Aromasin myself. Run the AI all the way through PCT. Good luck Bro.

/V

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 03:41 PM

Heavyiron, victor thankyou for your replies. Crystal clear.. You guys have put my mind at rest..Time for the show to begin...
All the best lads..

i only joined here today and i have got such great replies from victor and heavyiron.

Much more than a lot of sites..Thankyou again ,i like it here already..TOP lads..

**VictorZ06** · 03-30-2010, 03:45 PM

Heavy beat me to it. He is more experienced with Aromasin than I am, so if you do decide to use it, I'd follow his advice.

/V

**VictorZ06** · 03-30-2010, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by pitt

Heavyiron, victor thankyou for your replies. Crystal clear.. You guys have put my mind at rest..Time for the show to begin...
All the best lads..

No problem! Best of luck and do keep us posted.

/V

**pitt** · 03-30-2010, 04:01 PM

Yeah for sure victor, not a prob.Ill even get some pics up soon. ill go with 25mgs EOD- aromasin.
You the man...

**bigrene** · 03-30-2010, 05:23 PM

Im five weeks into dbol sus and tren e 40 a day dbol 500sus/ew 200tren e/ew in now starting week five all of a sudden lost 3.5 water and just starting tightning up and losing a little fat at of know where. First time using tren so point being this never happened before on test so it seems tren even at low dose has good triming morphing abilities. This cycles going great!Also up 17lbs was 20.5 but you heard

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