Thread: Questions for Vic (and others who can advise)

Hey Bro, I'll do my best to help answer some of your questions.

1. It's difficult to say what your dbol dose should be. I usually run between 50-75mg ED and that's considered by most to be too much. Yet on the other hand, I know guys who do VERY well off of 25mg ED. 50mg is the highest most suggest using. So, I can't be honest and say what's best for you. But, if I had to "guess" by your stats (being a first cycle and all) I would take between 20-30mg ED. See how that works for the first week, if you want to up the dose…jump it.

2. There is no effective substitute for HCG that I am aware of. Nobody wants testicular atrophy, but it does happen. There are lots of ways and methods to store the stuff…you can store it at a friends place, in a special container that nobody can see in the fridge, in a cooler in the trunk of your car, etc. Use your head, think about it. If you are traveling back and forth someplace, be sure to have some at both locations.

3. 23g pins are ok…they take some time for them to empty out, so when I shoot for the glutes, I use 22g. 1.5" pins on the glutes, 1" pins on the quads.

4. AIs. This is a very long and detailed subject. I'd be happy to try and answer some of your specific questions, but I can't write ya a book. Every answer I give you will have a follow up question. Just to round some corners, nolva is often a bad combo with certain other products. It can also have some rather nasty sides. Study a little more to find out witch products don't work with nolva and why. Clomid works very well and I include it in all my PCTs. I'm used to running adex, but am looking forward to trying aromasin on my next go. Be sure to pick one or the other.

/V

Thanks Vic,

1. Ok, I will start with the 30mg a day and see how it goes. I may ramp it as it progresses.

2. I dont travel to work, I am home for 14 days, then I work on an oil rig for 14 days in the ocean. The only refrigeration out here is the Galley refridgerator, and thats a no no. Simply not an option for me. I guess I will just have to deal with baby-balls

3. I will go to 22g 1.5". I don't mind needles and will be shooting glutes.

4. Well, I will just write out what I have planned, and you can wreck it as you see fit!

500mg (250mg x2) Test E Week for 10 weeks
Dbol 30-45mg ED for 4-6 weeks
Arimidex .25 - .5mg ED-EOD as needed
Clomid 100mg ED week 13, then 50mg ED for 4 more weeks

Thanks again Vic.

Looks good! Only thing I would adjust is your clomid dose. Run 200mg for the first two days, and then use 100/75/50/50.

You can use the HCG during your PCT and that will help bring your boys back to normal size at a quicker rate. Clomid will also help in this area.

/V

Alright, thanks again Vic. Orders should all be placed on the 23rd, so I will keep everyone updated!

Best of luck to you. Diet and training is all in your court.

/V

yes, got then 60mg d-bol a day if tabs are 15mg.
why not add some deca or bold or some tren too? summer time ..add tren

Originally Posted by WFC2010

yes, got then 60mg d-bol a day if tabs are 15mg.
why not add some deca or bold or some tren too? summer time ..add tren

Keep in mind he is a first time user....nobody feels that a novice user should touch tren until many cycles later. Deca and bold work lovely, but again...it's his first cycle. JMHO!

/V

As a first timer I would suggest running test by itself. Although, I tend to approach things from a conservative stand point. The test alone will give you great gains! If you're dead set on running Dbol start it at 30mg ED. DO NOT RUN TREN THIS EARLY!

Also, you could pin the HCG on the weeks you're on land. It will still help with the atrophy. It's not ideal but you're hardly living under ideal conditions.

Don't worry about the tren! I will be sticking with the Test/Dbol kick. I may move into bigger and better down the road, but if I get reactions I want to be able to identify whats causing it!

So I can pin the HCG for 2 weeks at a time with 2 week breaks in between? What dosages would I be running, and what benefits could I expect? To be honest, I am not worried about the fertility issue, I have more kids than any man (or third world country) should have, and couldnt care less if I have more, but I AM worried about ED and ITT.