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    Pgcl

    Does anyone know where i can get more info on this stuff please. Or fill me in about it if you know how to use it safely and where, when and how much to inject. Does it come mixed or is it powder? Thanks

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    PGCL is a prostaglandin. I'm not a fan of the stuff. My buddy runs the stuff time to time pre-contest, some guys also use it to make weight for a competition. He takes 50mcg daily sub-q (25mcg 2X a day), and this is the max suggested dose. You may want to use less as the sides can be rather nasty (nausea, vomit, explosive diarrhea, heart palpitations, constant urine, etc).

    I would suggest being in the bathroom when you take the stuff. It takes only minutes to start taking effect, also...make sure to have plenty of toilet paper on hand. Be sure to have plenty of water/gatorade on hand as well. Aspirin will help with most other sides, best to take it AM.

    How long do you plan on running it? How much are you looking to lose? Be careful and study up on this stuff before touching it. Good luck.

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    I've been told that it burns fat similar to that of DNP? ..and that it is extremely anabolic? Almost to the point that allows you to build muscle?

    Doesn't sound right, but it what I have "heard". Mind straightening everything up?

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    EDIT: Just thought about it.. 2 injections per day PLUS your cycle injections (EOD for me..) Ouch!

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    I was getting info on it before i plan on how long to run it. I want to drop about 15lbs (hopefully of just fat) before running my cycle or maybe run it after a cycle of test e. I cant make up my mind until i know more about it. Ive also heard that tyler, i googled it and read a post about some cat saying he was pumped without even training on it yet.

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    PGCL sounds pretty intriguing, but like I said.. Injecting 2x a day is going to get old quick! As far as extreme fat loss goes, I think I would rather go with DNP..

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    I'm having trouble with a place i trust to get dnp though. Its a toss up really on what one i'll pick. I was hoping more people would give me their $0.02 on the subject.

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    i can say do not use DNP i know guy who almost die because of DNP he take 600mg week!

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    600mg a week isnt much. Is it?

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    PCGL and DNP are you guys serious? Whats wrong with diet and training? You really want to use two of the most dangerous compounds around to lose a few pounds. Those are pretty hardcore substances there and it doesnt sound like either one of you are ready for them. Hell why not throw in some slin just for good measure. Guys get your diet and training right and then try something a little less hardcore like clen/t3 combo works great and not nearly as dangerous if you dose it correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcar1016 View Post
    PCGL and DNP are you guys serious? Whats wrong with diet and training? You really want to use two of the most dangerous compounds around to lose a few pounds. Those are pretty hardcore substances there and it doesnt sound like either one of you are ready for them. Hell why not throw in some slin just for good measure. Guys get your diet and training right and then try something a little less hardcore like clen/t3 combo works great and not nearly as dangerous if you dose it correctly.
    Agreed and very well put. Like I said, I'm no fan of this shit.

    If you are a pro fighter or a pro body builder and need to drop weight FAST...I can understand using this stuff to a certain degree (paycheck...feed the fam, etc). Proper training and diet is a far better/safer path to take. It may take a bit longer, but with enough discipline, one can get there. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorZ06 View Post
    Agreed and very well put. Like I said, I'm no fan of this shit.

    If you are a pro fighter or a pro body builder and need to drop weight FAST...I can understand using this stuff to a certain degree (paycheck...feed the fam, etc). Proper training and diet is a far better/safer path to take. It may take a bit longer, but with enough discipline, one can get there. IMHO.

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    Thanks for the backup Vic I see new guys on some boards ask questions like this and get back bullshit answers from other guys who have no clue and then you never hear from the original poster again. Makes you wonder how many peeps out there are fucking themselves up cause of bad info
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    Clen/t3 is what i just came off of. Ive read and studied everything i can find on dnp. I believe i could run it safely actually. I dont know about pgcl, THAT is the reason for my thread. I mean no offense but i wasnt asking anyones opinion on doing iy or not doing it. I'm wanting info to LEARN to do it right, thats it. If i dont do it then i will run t3 and test e together. I have a clean diet of lean meats and veggies. Been that way for a while. Some people have trouble getting to single digit bf. I'm one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getfit75 View Post
    Clen/t3 is what i just came off of. Ive read and studied everything i can find on dnp. I believe i could run it safely actually. I dont know about pgcl, THAT is the reason for my thread. I mean no offense but i wasnt asking anyones opinion on doing iy or not doing it. I'm wanting info to LEARN to do it right, thats it. If i dont do it then i will run t3 and test e together. I have a clean diet of lean meats and veggies. Been that way for a while. Some people have trouble getting to single digit bf. I'm one
    You didnt offend anyone I just wanted you to understand the seriousness of those products and they are not used for the purpose you stated, thats why I made such a big deal of it they are used for very short periods of time for very specific goals as Vic stated in his post. Contest prep or to make weight for a fight. NOT for a long term solution to bf reduction. Good Luck bro and be safe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getfit75 View Post
    Does anyone know where i can get more info on this stuff please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Getfit75 View Post
    I mean no offense but i wasnt asking anyones opinion on doing iy or not doing it.
    Nobody is taking any offense or trying to play mom & pop, we were simply giving you info....that is what you asked for, and it comes in several forms.

    If you have some specific questions, please go ahead and ask and we will do our best to help you out. I'm not sure if there is a "right" way to take this stuff. Dosage and timing are dependent on where you are physically, height, weight, how much water retention you have, your BF%, caloric intake, how many cals you burn, etc. It's a science.

    We all like to think we are looking out for one and other here, that's why some of us expressed concern JUST IN CASE you were not aware of the lethal sides. Knowing some of the lethal side effects is good info, correct?


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    you can hit it with a slin pin if you get it in the aqua solution. I know a few guys who use it to get rid of gyno, or preshow.

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    PGCL - Bodybuilding & fitness i read this forum earlier but sounds like the guy is somewhat of a risk taker. More so than myself, but gives a better idea of the drug.

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