Thread: Roxycodone and gains

Yes, long term opiate use of any sort will chew gains and muscle away. They don't belong around an AAS cycle, IMHO.

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Thanx Vic my girlfriend takes them I just started taking one at the end of night to relax I think Ill just stick to with a joint.Now that you say that it makes sense being that its pretty much like heroin and look at those guys.Thanx for reply Im gonna make me a protein shake right now!(Nitrotech)

opiates will effect the hypothalamus and lower testosterone levels. Pot will increase estrogen and decrease test levels as well and can cause gyno too.

Im lucky as far as sides right now Im taking a gram a week between sus and deca and no gyno,acne,baldness only minor nut shrinkage and I mean minor their still hanging so thats good and I smoke about 1 or 2 joints a day and like I said no gyno.I dont think weed will lower my test being that my natural test is already shut down do you know if it can interfere with muscle receptors?U can look at my photos I took them about a 2 week and see I dont have sides, those pics are about 6 weeks into cycle.

Oxy's are bad juju.... I got hooked on them a few years back, just tryin to relax with them. I got up to snorting 5 oxy 40's a day. Went through DTs so bad that i would wake up cramped into the fetal position. Bad stuff to even tamper with.

Plus, working out numb is a bad idea too, easy way to get injured, plus your strength wont be up to par without the mind muscle connection.

Right on brosky my chick takes like 4 a day she gets sicker than hell if she doesnt have them.(fetal position)She getting some saboxin so she can get off them.Went to gym today not f**kin off.Done playing games time to get Grizzly.

damn, saboxin is some serious shit. What ever you do, dont medel with those, they can be just as bad.

Yeah suboxone is how its spelled just fyi. And its just as addictive and potentialy more dangerous because of drug interactions. Also because its an opiod receptor agonist it dosent allow the "high" from opiates if they're taken will using suboxone leading to a high number of overdose fatalities. I have heard word because of this it is soon to be reevaluated by the FDA for safety. It's kinda like the whole Methadone Heroin trade off as far as addiction goes though. The only real way to get clean is abstinance.

Funny thing is, ive seen a guy that took a whole suboxone, dont know the mgs, but its the one shaped like a stop sign, and he turned violently ill and had to be put in the hospital, i know another guy that popped one and died from a drug over dose. Thats 1 friggin pill, why on earth would they make a dose that fucking strong that a guy takes one and accidentally dies from an OD? My brother nibbles the corner of one and is high all day. Thats sounds more dangerous than a loaded gun IMO.

Originally Posted by downtown

Funny thing is, ive seen a guy that took a whole suboxone, dont know the mgs, but its the one shaped like a stop sign, and he turned violently ill and had to be put in the hospital, i know another guy that popped one and died from a drug over dose. Thats 1 friggin pill, why on earth would they make a dose that fucking strong that a guy takes one and accidentally dies from an OD? My brother nibbles the corner of one and is high all day. Thats sounds more dangerous than a loaded gun IMO.

Yeah they come in 2mg and 8mg sublinguals usually they dispense the 8's with instructions to split it in two. They're both stop signed shape and pinkish peach color. The 8's are bigger than the 2's in size. And yeah they are very dangerous but so is methadone and the FDA never did end up pulling it. I think its kind of a foot in mouth sorta thing they dont wanna look stupid. And its kinda sad downtown they're everywhere available in our state bro.

Yup, if you get your teeth pulled the doc's will give you oxy's just to shut you up, our state is riddled with pills.