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    Lab work is in

    Heavy/Dragon/Pirate/Vic...

    Before HRT my labs were:
    Total T: 231
    Free T: not sure
    E2: 44.8

    Since I've been on 250mg/EW:
    Total T: 1292ng/dL
    Free T: >49.0pg/mL
    E2: 36.1pg/mL

    I'm also doing the following:
    HCG - 500iu 2X week
    Aromasin (research chem) - 25mg/eod

    What do you think? Up the AI slightly?
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    Both your total test and free test are pretty close to where mine are on my HRT test CYP at 200mg ew. Maybe just a tad higher by 100-150 or so on the total.

    You estrogen is also pretty close to where mine was at 25mg ed of aromasin. But I got them down a bit more by taking the aromasin at 12.5mg ed. But I was not taking any HCG.

    I don't really use HCG being on TRT for life. Unless you just want it for asthetic reasons or ever plan on coming off, I wouldn't bother with it. All it will do is elevate your estrogen levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    Heavy/Dragon/Pirate/Vic...

    Before HRT my labs were:
    Total T: 231
    Free T: not sure
    E2: 44.8

    Since I've been on 250mg/EW:
    Total T: 1292ng/dL
    Free T: >49.0pg/mL
    E2: 36.1pg/mL

    I'm also doing the following:
    HCG - 500iu 2X week
    Aromasin (research chem) - 25mg/eod

    What do you think? Up the AI slightly?
    Looks good man, just up the AI a touch. I run mine 25mg Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat so you basically get a little more mg per week than eod. Or do what dragon said and go 12.5mg ed.


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    Re: Lab work is in

    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron
    Looks good man, just up the AI a touch. I run mine 25mg Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat so you basically get a little more mg per week than eod. Or do what dragon said and go 12.5mg ed.


    Who makes the Aromasin?
    Sten labs. I'll up it a little bit.

    Thanks guys.... I appreciate all the help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    Heavy/Dragon/Pirate/Vic...
    Since I've been on 250mg/EW:

    Total T: 1292ng/dL
    Free T: >49.0pg/mL
    E2: 36.1pg/mL
    ?
    Can you tell me the date you pinned and the date of the blood test (# of days apart)? I am just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Can you tell me the date you pinned and the date of the blood test (# of days apart)? I am just curious.
    Excellent question ^^^
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    Yeah, I should have asked that too. Also, ditch the sten labs and get it from research stop. Stens is OK. But research stop is post on.

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    Re: Lab work is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert

    Can you tell me the date you pinned and the date of the blood test (# of days apart)? I am just curious.
    My first shot was on Sunday 3/28 and I've pinned every Sunday and Wed or Thurs since (every 3-4 days). On the week I had blood drawn, I pinned on Sunday 4/18 (night). Blood was drawn on Wednesday 4/21 (morning). Then I pinned again on 4/22. So I guess it's averaging out to E3.5D if I alternate Wed/thurs.
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    Re: Lab work is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_MD
    Yeah, I should have asked that too. Also, ditch the sten labs and get it from research stop. Stens is OK. But research stop is post on.
    I've heard good things about them. I'll definitely try researchstop next time. Jack the ripper always told me to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    Heavy/Dragon/Pirate/Vic...

    Before HRT my labs were:
    Total T: 231
    Free T: not sure
    E2: 44.8

    Since I've been on 250mg/EW:
    Total T: 1292ng/dL
    Free T: >49.0pg/mL
    E2: 36.1pg/mL

    I'm also doing the following:
    HCG - 500iu 2X week
    Aromasin (research chem) - 25mg/eod

    What do you think? Up the AI slightly?
    '

    You might want to post up the reference ranges. Your total test is nice and high (and out of range, but with luck your GP won't mind)

    Your estrogen went down. Why increase the AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
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    You might want to post up the reference ranges. Your total test is nice and high (and out of range, but with luck your GP won't mind)

    Your estrogen went down. Why increase the AI?
    The E2 referrence range for men is too wide. Anything above 30pg/ml can cause libido issues.
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    Oooh, good to know. Thanks HI

    (runs off to check hubby's levels)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Oooh, good to know. Thanks HI

    (runs off to check hubby's levels)
    20-25pg/ml seems to be the sweet spot. Free T needs to be high as well.

    Also blowjobs are good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Also blowjobs are good...
    Yes. Yes they are.
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    Re: Lab work is in

    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron
    20-25pg/ml seems to be the sweet spot. Free T needs to be high as well.

    Also blowjobs are good...
    How is my free T?

    BJ's just makes everything a little better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    How is my free T?

    BJ's just makes everything a little better.
    Off the charts high. Very good!
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    Free Ts and BJs are on high, no worries there.

    HI, you got a link to "optimal" HRT levels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Free Ts and BJs are on high, no worries there.

    HI, you got a link to "optimal" HRT levels?
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    fan freaking tastic.

    Thank you for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    fan freaking tastic.

    Thank you for this.
    Yeah, the first time I read it I was like OH YEAH!

    Very good info.
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    Great read....






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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_MD View Post
    Yeah, I should have asked that too. Also, ditch the sten labs and get it from research stop. Stens is OK. But research stop is post on.
    How's research's Cialis? I've used CEMs and it worked great, but you get twice as much from researchstop at the same price.

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    Re: Lab work is in

    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron
    Looks good man, just up the AI a touch. I run mine 25mg Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat so you basically get a little more mg per week than eod. Or do what dragon said and go 12.5mg ed.


    Who makes the Aromasin?
    I took 25mg of Aromasin on back-to-back nights. I tried that because I think this RC liquid is a bit under-dosed.... I had wood just driving to work the next morning. So I think I'll run the rest that I have @ 15mg/ED. Then if I get tabs, back to 12.5/ED or your dosing of 25mg M/W/F/S.

    Thanks for the help...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    I took 25mg of Aromasin on back-to-back nights. I tried that because I think this RC liquid is a bit under-dosed.... I had wood just driving to work the next morning. So I think I'll run the rest that I have @ 15mg/ED. Then if I get tabs, back to 12.5/ED or your dosing of 25mg M/W/F/S.

    Thanks for the help...
    It is tough to say on the purity of your product but given the half life taking it more frequently is likely the solution.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LikeARock View Post
    How's research's Cialis? I've used CEMs and it worked great, but you get twice as much from researchstop at the same price.
    It is good to go.
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