Thread: Dbol cycle advanced. No Rookies.

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I've been on a half dozen dbol "only" cycles @ 30mg a day / 6wks on & 3wks off. I can personally tell you that the theory "that you loss 100% of everything you gained when you cycle off" is BS. You lose about half, which is the water retention. I've maintained great gains on/off every cycle to date. As far as side effects are concerned, I've had pretty much none, maybe a little acne on my back during my 2nd cycle. But everyone will react differently, mind you. But it looks like you already have a use history. Obviously PCT is key in all of this. I've been off now for almost two months & I am still very happy with my post cycle gains. It all boils down to gym
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I tried this topic at mesomorphosis, but they're apparently a bunch of asswipes.. The 'liver' speech was their ultimate argument. So thanks for serious comments bro's

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Have you ever tried doses above 30mgs/day, and for, lets say, 14 days on, 14 days off? This is a rather used cycle method, for reasons i've yet to learn (?).

I may consider a larger dose - maybe a pyramid build-up from 60mg to 80mg for 4 weeks.
To do this with minimal sides and maximum LBM gains after cycle, i would use a well tested MCT containing 250iu hCG e3d and 0.5 a-dex eod.

I've read only little info about experiments with oral only cycles, so PLEASE dudes, share your cycles

I have done up to 75mgs a day just be aware of gyno. That in my opinion is a very bad side so just have some aromasin on hand. Also i noticed it slowed down my appetite quite a bit. The good thing about it at that dose was the strength i obtained i was shoulder pressing 80lb dumbells on each side and i am only 150lbs 5'7 i was prolly 155 but still. So thats my experience but i cant tell you how much i kept because i used it to kick start my cycle for 2 month then i switched to injects but while i was taking the dbol i also was taking sustanon. Hope this helps a bit.

I've yet to try anything more than 30mg a day, not to say I wouldn't, but for now I'm happy with my current progress. I don't see a problem with 14d on/off @ a higher dose, as this is a short cycle & will allow for plenty of PCT. I myself would probably not exceed 60mg. It's all in what your looking to accomplish & knowing when to draw the line in the sand. I do it as a power lifter, whereas a body builder might have a different approach?

I hear gains vs sides 40mg is a good dose .. id rather take slightly less for longer IMMO

If your using d-bol for powerlifting purposes and not that concerned about hepatoxicity give anadrol a try its much better suited for that purpose.

Originally Posted by jcar1016

If your using d-bol for powerlifting purposes and not that concerned about hepatoxicity give anadrol a try its much better suited for that purpose.

I agree & have tried a50, but it made me way more temperamental than I already am. Dbol dosen't have the same effect on me.

odd but I guess everyone responds different both are androgenic enough to cause anger issues if your prone to em

I have known people to have fatty livers (and high values) without even drinking, and yet others can run 300mg of drol and be within normal range. I was taking pretty high doses of drol at one point AND a little accutane too, really testing the waters. I had myself tested and I was 20 or 25% over normal, and I could feel it (this was around 6 weeks I think).

30mg of dbol for a normal liver in an otherwise healthy person, is not going to be "extremely hepatoxic" at all IMO.

Even though drol hits me harder and I tend to prefer it, dbol works well and I have never really found a reason to go over 35mg or so dbol daily.

30mg D-bol daily for 8 weeks is decent but I would rather stack test with it.

It just starts getting fun around week 6 so I would not interupt administration any time during that 6 weeks.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I have known people to have fatty livers (and high values) without even drinking, and yet others can run 300mg of drol and be within normal range.

that is me, I swear I have an incredible liver, several years ago I was abusing the hell out of M1T (high doses for many months) and it had very little effect on my liver enzymes, I think my strong liver is due to my family history of alcoholics.

I guess I'm in-between having some Irish in me

Everyone is different genetically and size wise, tolerances just wont always match up so its up to us all to watch our own blood.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

30mg D-bol daily for 8 weeks is decent but I would rather stack test with it.

It just starts getting fun around week 6 so I would not interupt administration any time during that 6 weeks.

JFC . . this is on the Capt's 'to do' list

Originally Posted by Mudge

I guess I'm in-between having some Irish in me

Everyone is different genetically and size wise, tolerances just wont always match up so its up to us all to watch our own blood.

Yeah between the irish liver and (judging by that pic in your avatar) you being the size of a bear your probably good to go on bout anything eh Mudge?

Originally Posted by jcar1016

Yeah between the irish liver and (judging by that pic in your avatar) you being the size of a bear your probably good to go on bout anything eh Mudge?

Agree with you J,he's almost dwarfing Iron Jay aka Mr.O himself!!!

Originally Posted by jcar1016

Yeah between the irish liver and (judging by that pic in your avatar) you being the size of a bear your probably good to go on bout anything eh Mudge?

Originally Posted by fredlabrute

Agree with you J,he's almost dwarfing Iron Jay aka Mr.O himself!!!

was wondering who that notBig on the left was

What the fuck? I leave for 24 hours, and you guys talk about irish and alcoholics..
Btw, Cutler is pretty much a dwarf next to an elf too. He's like an elf on deca.. Hmm.

Anadrol aren't considered dangerous hepatotoxic-wise with doses around 100mg - this is one reason why dbol shouldn't be dangerous at for instance 80mg/day.

I really appriciate your answers, yet wondering why other forums are so ignorant when it comes to this topic. Its like a tabu most places. ("#%@€£$@ mesoRX!)

So now we've established that high-dose dbol aren't a pussy cycle combi and not a liver-killer..

What did you high-dosers do with MCT of PCT?

I would probably used a mct, looking like this:
250iu hcg e3d with 0.5mg adex eod, and then a pct shouldn't be nessesary, since i'm not prone to gyno..

So you're not thinking of running test as well?

I've thought about it, but my receptores needs a longer break. I did test from october to january/february, and so i would be displeased to get anything but the full result and effect.

Besides.. I have a little acne problem to deal with now, paraboline was apparently not honey to my system.. Fuckin tren..

Any idea what %-increase in effect of e.g 250mg test e ew would provide, over a period of 3 months? (not counting the 4 weeks it takes for test e to metabolize in the body)

your receptors need a break, yet you wish to run dbol? doesnt make sense.

I dont think i'll run dbol right now, but wait till the god damn acne is gone.. Maybe in two months - but by that time i should have been off enough for the receptors to work..

Any reason why stacking with test is preferred? Besides the obvious of better gains hehe..

Right now its all just ideas and research

test is the basis of all cycles . . bottom line, no arguments

I agree. But right now we discuss dbol only, and not within a stack. If we stack dbol with test, then why not with deca or fina, and so on.. It's just hypothetical.
Low-dose dbol doesn't kill your libido, so a test base isn't needed for that reason, with the 30mg/day cycles people normally do. But it could be a good idea with higher doses.

But you are absolutely right, test should be the base compound of a cycle anytime.

unless you're scared of needles, I cant think of a reason why you would run test without dbol, even a low dose . . just saying

Anything you take suppresses test, it just makes sense to at least replace it.

PCT by the way has nothing to do with gyno, it just so happens that nolvadex is used during PCT (for many, not all) and also for some gyno symptoms. PCT = post cycle therapy.