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  1. 04-29-2010, 10:35 PM #1
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    Deciding PCT?

    Hey guys, I'm new here but have read around here and other forums....and planning my first cycle of prohormones. To start off my stats are as follows (been training since high school).....

    Age: 26
    BF%: 13%
    Weight: 186
    Height: 5' 10

    I am wanting to get under 10% bf so I was thinking of running Epi-Max and OxyELITE Pro. I was wondering what kind of PCT would be needed for this? I don't think I would need anything for OxyELITE Pro but as far as the Epi-Max goes, what should I take? Where can I order it? Also, how should I run the PCT? I was told that I should pick up Novedex XT by Gaspari and take that PCT but I've read otherwise elsewhere that it isn't strong enough of a PCT.

    Thanks for your help, please be nice as I know I don't know everything and that is why I am gathering as much information as possible BEFORE starting anything.
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  3. 04-30-2010, 02:08 AM #2
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    get some real nolvadex+clomids for pct
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    Both? Alright well, any idea where I could order some? How would I run it?
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    Do you need pct for prohormones?
    I don't believe their effect has ever been documented?
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    Not sure, as I am still researching but why risk it? It is disrupting hormonal balance, am I correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyronPyro View Post
    Do you need pct for prohormones?
    I don't believe their effect has ever been documented?
    Some of them are powerful, my friend had leaking nipples from using Halotren 400!!!He freaked me out.I would definitely take an AI alternative(legal) as Arom-X from AMS(Advanced muscle science) during the cycle!
    After that a pct plan with natural T booster as Super Test by BeastSportsNutrition with Nolvedex XT from Gaspari and some kind of creatine would do the trick for a prohormones cycle!!!
    The more harder and difficult is the road that lead to success,the greater is the gift and reward at the end of that path...
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    Alright, thanks bro. So Arom-X with cycle along with a natural T booster such as Super Test/Nolvedex XT and creatine would be fine?

    As I said am going to be taking Epi-Max and OxyELITE Pro only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jai View Post
    Alright, thanks bro. So Arom-X with cycle along with a natural T booster such as Super Test/Nolvedex XT and creatine would be fine?

    As I said am going to be taking Epi-Max and OxyELITE Pro only.
    Is Epi-Max something with the prohormones 2a,3a epithiochollan-diol in it??Take Arom-X during your ph cycle.The rest will be after to keep gains and restaure T level!Good luck!
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    2a, 3a Epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane.....10mg

    That is what I pulled up, thanks for hanging in here for a noob.
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    Yeah that was what i meant!good ph for lean mass gain with a Q rating of 12!
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    Thanks again....as far as dosage, how should I run it?
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    No longer than 2 months,with liver supp including milk thistle. I'm a pretty big guy so my dosage were quite uncommon but i suggest you to go at least 30mg ed.PH are very hard on the liver with so-so results that's why sooner or later most of the guys go for true anabolics!!!
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    I was thinking of a 4 week cycle on the PH, I will be doing a liver supplement but is milk thistle a must?

    I was actually asking how long/how to run a pct. Thanks for staying here with me, just trying to learn from experienced pros like yourself.
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    Yes? No? Sorry if I am being impatient, I completely appreciate you helping me.
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    4 wks okay,never more than 8 wks with the same time off,means than if you're on 6 wks, you're off 6 wks too!They are plenty of liver supp, guys here seems to swear by Liv52!!!Just always take some with any PH or oral anabolic!
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    Not a pro btw, just tons of experiences with PH,before finally choosing the more efficient way!
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    Yes, I was just asking if I take a LiverCare supplement is it a must that I also take Milk Thistle?

    And for the PCT, how should I run it? How long should I run it? At what dosages?

    How would you run the dosage on Arom-X?


    Haha, regardless if you are a pro or not you are helping me very much.
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    Keep it simple Jai!!!Just go by what the label says.Begin with the low-limit of dosage recommended to assess your tolerance and then up the dose if you're unhappy with the results!
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    Milk thistle is a common ingredients in liver support supp, even if yours don't have some give it a try!
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  21. 04-30-2010, 10:49 AM #20
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    Okay fredlabrute, thanks very much for your help. I will definitely be active on these forums now that I have found out how helpful and nice you guys are!!
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