Thread: please give input un cycle

Up the test to 500mg ew, up the bold to 600mg ew(dose related to optimal results vs minimum sides),protein intake seems low if you're seeking mass gains,as is the cal intake,should be bw multiply by 15 cal per pounds for a meso or 20 cal for an ecto!PCT plan seems ok but ask Victor or Heavy to confirm!

Thats a pretty nice cutter you got set up there bro. I agree with fred on one thing I would up your Test e to 500mg ew. I really like Bold but on a cut like that for me anyway I dont think I would up it much more than 450mg thats shit makes me ravenous hungry and I dont like that on cut. If you can get some aromasin and run it thru out your cycle and till two weeks after pct that would be ideal. If you do get some ditch the nolva just keep it on hand for emergency in a later cycle. The problem here is your running Tren so if you get gyno symptoms the nolva will make it worse. So get some letro just incase and use it if issues arise. All in all looks like a pretty good cycle a little heavy for a first in 7 years but thats just my opinion

thanks guys i've said in other posts i started the test at 350 just to keep the t3 in check but i;ve responded really well and want to extebd the cycle with the other three compounds.
i do have nolva on hand but i wasnt aware that tren will act like that with nolva.
jacr you like aromison over adex?
thanks again

Originally Posted by nd2bhge

thanks guys i've said in other posts i started the test at 350 just to keep the t3 in check but i;ve responded really well and want to extebd the cycle with the other three compounds.
i do have nolva on hand but i wasnt aware that tren will act like that with nolva.
jacr you like aromison over adex?
thanks again

No personaly I prefer Adex but feel aromasin should at least be added to pct it acts as a suicide inhibitor so you dont have to worry about estro rebound. so as far as economicaly its cheaper to just use aromasin straight thru. Tren is a 19-nor and can cause progesterone like sides dont use Nolva with 19 nors another popular one is Deca

Hunger isn't an issue for me with Bold,as i've always been eating like a pig!!!
From what i've read,not from my personnal experience,600mg seems to be the dose preferred by most of roids guru.

jcar, do you mean not to use nolva during cycle with a 19nor or even during pct? my plan was to use the clomid and nolva after tren has cleared about three days later. i do understand to keep letro incase of gyno symptoms during cycle instead of nolva.
am i following you here? im already using adex at .5 eod. so it would ok to switch to aromison for pct?

thanks for the help again.

What would be the purpose of using Nolva during cycle???Using an AI is ok not using nolva and clomid!Nolva isn't recommended with 19-Nor for pct,after the cycle!Nolva is use to restaure natural T level after a cycle,during your cycle test level are already sky high!

so no nolva! use clomid only, and keep letro incase of gyno.
im also using hcg @500iu e5d.

Originally Posted by nd2bhge

jcar, do you mean not to use nolva during cycle with a 19nor or even during pct? my plan was to use the clomid and nolva after tren has cleared about three days later. i do understand to keep letro incase of gyno symptoms during cycle instead of nolva.
am i following you here? im already using adex at .5 eod. so it would ok to switch to aromison for pct?

thanks for the help again.

yeah its ok to switch. sounds like you got it

Originally Posted by fredlabrute

What would be the purpose of using Nolva during cycle???Using an AI is ok not using nolva and clomid!Nolva isn't recommended with 19-Nor for pct,after the cycle!Nolva is use to restaure natural T level after a cycle,during your cycle test level are already sky high!

The only reason some might use Nolva or clomid during cycle instead of an AI such as Adex or Aromasin is if they already had a compromised lipid profile as AI's have shown to make this worse HOWEVER if you already have an issue with your lipids you shouldnt be using AAS anyway. Unfortunatly some guys take these unnessesary risks instead of just addressing the issue with their lipid counts. DONT be one of those guys