Thread: New to the group!

Not a pro, but I suggest new friends...deca and tren would be great if you dont ever plan on having sex again.

Nobody can help you without knowing you're goals, but try reading the Sticky on First Cycle and PCT

Originally Posted by ovillan

Hi everyone, newbie here! I'm 5"10 198 lbs, about 10-12 % body fat (I'm really working on that one!) I'm looking to bulk up. My friend suggested I start with a cycle of Deca and Tren. My other friend told me to use HGH. What do you pros suggest? My curiousity says go with the HGH, but like I said I'm new to this.

Your first cycle bro dont even think about touchin Tren your first cycle should be Test only. Go from there

Yeah deca and tren ONLY would shut you down super hard.. Don't worry about either of these compounds for a first cycle. A first cycle should be test only..

Like said above, read the stickies.

Deca and Tren are two 19-Nors, aromatizes into progesterone,not recommended to combine two of these in same cycle!Some kind of test(C or E-won't have to pin often)at 500mg ew and deca at 400mg ew would be a good base!Don't forget an AI for during cycle and pct for after as clomid or nolvadex.

Welcome to the show! How old are you?


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Thanks for the feedback! So, for the most part, the overwhelming suggestion is Test on the first cycle. I'm assuming for 8 weeks? And how many times a week? Should I stack with anything?

38 years "young"

Test is the base of any cycle,so no Test =no cycle.If you read on the topic, one of Deca sides that should concern you is Deca Dick(by reading old thread you'll learn about that),taking extra Test will compensate for this loss of libido.With cyp or enanth esthers you'll pin 2 times per week,buy a test at 250mg per ml and you'll take 1cc each time(i pin on tuesday and friday).Don't forget to have some AI(aromasin or a-dex) in hands and HCG if you want the boys to keep working(the gonads)!After that clomid would help restaure natural T level (PCT after cycle).
Good luck

Originally Posted by ovillan

Hi everyone, newbie here! I'm 5"10 198 lbs, about 10-12 % body fat (I'm really working on that one!) I'm looking to bulk up. My friend suggested I start with a cycle of Deca and Tren. My other friend told me to use HGH. What do you pros suggest? My curiousity says go with the HGH, but like I said I'm new to this.

HGH is pretty expensive and should be taken for at least 6 months,people seems to get better results when combinig it with Test!Ask Victor,Hammer or somebody else that have experienced with HGH,you'll get more accurate info!!!At 38 yrs of age extra hormones will probably makes a differrence!
See ya

When you'r friends suggested deca and tren together for a first cycle or ANY cycle they were leading you down a bad path. You would have no working DICK at all and most likely have progesterone related gyno( that means you would have tits) AND not have the knowledge to help yourself with these side effects. Like fredlabrute and a few other suggested a testosterone only cycle to get your feet wet would be the safest and since your receptors are pure(no past cycles) you would most likely see great results. There is tons more to it than just finding some stuff and getting the courage to inject yourself and hope for the best. There are some great sticky's here to read about PCT, HCG, basic cycles I think and we are all here to help you aswell to be safe and get the most out of your experience. What I would suggest is sit down with a piece of paper. Figure out your goals, study on a safe cycle that you think may fit in that criterea, list everything you may need including all you'r ai's, serms, PCT items, pins and you will begin to see how complicated it can become. Once you get all this stuff in order I and many others will be able to critique and help you from that point. Please dont rely on the two that told you deca and tren together.

Originally Posted by ovillan

38 years "young"

Just asking, I hate to give advice to those who I don't know how old they are.

Seeing as this would be a first run. I'd keep it simple. As mentioned above, test alone is fine for you. I would run a 1/2 gr. of test a week for 12 weeks (500mg). Along side that, use and AI along with some HCG to prevent testicular atrophy. PCT done with clomid. Proviron is an option, I love the shit...you don't need it but it works really well for me. You also don't need HCG, but it will help!

HGH....well, IF you can afford it, I'd go for it at your age. Why not? You could do very well on 2-3iu a day...I best suggest running it for at least 6 months, IMHO...I'd run it for as long as you can afford it...in moderate doses.

Running both AAS and HGH at the same time helps amplify the effect of both. The two work very well hand in hand. Good luck!


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