Safest Steroid

zed · 09-09-2002, 08:02 PM

I was told that DECA is the safest steroid to use in terms of side effects, is this true? What about Stanazol, I thought this may be safer.

Thanks,
Zed

Dr. Pain · 09-09-2002, 08:23 PM

Safest...FOOD!

DP

**Mudge** · 09-09-2002, 08:26 PM

If limp dick doesn't bother you, and you don't use too much, then its relatively safe.

How about Ginsing

Dr. Pain · 09-09-2002, 08:35 PM

Long story on Ginseng...there are Ginsenosides "a" thru ???...towards 'g' and 'h', they are (as they isolate these)considered "anabolic"....but I'd say on a kindergarten level!

DP

**Mudge** · 09-09-2002, 08:49 PM

Yes, but technically they are plant steroids, my little joke.

Yams also contain plant steroids, didn't know that.
http://www.rain-tree.com/dioscorea.htm

Dr. Pain · 09-09-2002, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Yes, but technically they are plant steroids, my little joke.

Yams also contain plant steroids, didn't know that.
http://www.rain-tree.com/dioscorea.htm

While ginseng has phytosterols; campesterol, beta-sitosterol, stigmasterol...etc....and those are basically worthless except for prostate and cholesterol problems...there are mechanisms effecting the HPTA axis, that allow for hormonal change...however minor!

Yams contain diosgenin, which has some benefits for women as a phyto-sterol...but unfortunately can not be converted in the body into progesterone as many believe.....we simply do not possess the proper enzymes!

DP

**Mudge** · 09-09-2002, 09:52 PM

http://www.getbulky.com/Info/Steroid_Info/

Someone posted on another board something like, "why do steroids when ginsing does the same thing", LoL... I think they were stuck in 1990.

basskiller · 09-11-2002, 12:03 PM

avanar is the safest!

**gopro** · 09-13-2002, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by basskiller
avanar is the safest!

You mean aNaVar...and yes, its pretty safe. Actually the safest is the natural test your own body puts out!

**dg806** · 09-13-2002, 08:36 AM

Don't kid yourself. There are no safe steriods!

**gopro** · 09-13-2002, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
Don't kid yourself. There are no safe steriods!

True dg...however, there are some that are safe RELATIVE to others.

**dg806** · 09-13-2002, 08:52 AM

Yes that is true! But NONE are free from side effects, and I think I can add 1-test and 4-ad topicals to that list now seeing how strong they are!

**Mudge** · 09-13-2002, 10:01 AM

Anavar is not known for being great for putting on weight either, if you do things right the side effects are slightly depressed natural test which is why you have recovery and time between cycles.

marko · 09-13-2002, 11:37 AM

Hi there
I have read that the safest and gentlest injectable steroid is Primobolan Depot. It has so little side effects that some pros use it to bridge in between their heavier mass cycles. They inject 1 vial (200 mg)per week. Its effects are such that you keep increasing your muscle mass slowly and evenly, and the gains are permanent.
Using it between cycles will prevent the famous catabolic state that happens commonly in the weeks after you terminate a cycle, when you see a loss of some body weight.
It stacks very well with Winstrol during a cutting cycle.
Bye all.

**Mudge** · 09-13-2002, 12:25 PM

Gains can be "permanent" because they are slow in coming, and thats provided you eat right. It will still degrade your natural test levels as will anything, if you really care then DO NOT BRIDGE. However even women use Primo, 100mg or sometimes more.

As for winny, I won't touch it

5abi · 09-13-2002, 07:47 PM

mr mudge lol, y won't u touch winny?

**Mudge** · 09-13-2002, 09:14 PM

I already have problems with my left arm if I lift heavy (~5 reps) for extended periods of time (3 days or so I have problems), I am not going to compete, so I don't want to risk ripping myself to peices.

National competitor on another board recently detatched on of his forearm muscles doing reverse grip rows.

Belial · 09-13-2002, 09:27 PM

Almost any steroid can be safe! You think endocrinologists are putting their HRT (We're talking men here) in danger by giving them testosterone? The trick is not to fall into the "more is better" trap. Primo at 300-400mg a week should be fairly safe and low on sides (that's 3-4 amps), test around 400-500mg a week is similarly not usually a problem (though if you are gyno prone, forget it). EQ is another mild one.. anavar likewise.

However, orals are liver toxic usually, so I'd say avoid them... deca is HORRIBLE for post cycle recovery, tren is simply too androgenic to be considered "safe", the list goes on. Basically, EQ, primo, and anavar are your best bets.

09-09-2002, 08:02 PM	#1
zed Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 26	Safest Steroid I was told that DECA is the safest steroid to use in terms of side effects, is this true? What about Stanazol, I thought this may be safer. Thanks, Zed

09-09-2002, 08:26 PM	#3
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	If limp dick doesn't bother you, and you don't use too much, then its relatively safe. How about Ginsing
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-09-2002, 08:49 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Yes, but technically they are plant steroids, my little joke. Yams also contain plant steroids, didn't know that. http://www.rain-tree.com/dioscorea.htm
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-09-2002, 09:52 PM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	http://www.getbulky.com/Info/Steroid_Info/ Someone posted on another board something like, "why do steroids when ginsing does the same thing", LoL... I think they were stuck in 1990.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-13-2002, 08:36 AM	#10
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,415	Don't kid yourself. There are no safe steriods!
	www.sbmuscle.com

09-09-2002, 08:23 PM	#2
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Safest...FOOD! DP

09-09-2002, 08:35 PM	#4
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Long story on Ginseng...there are Ginsenosides "a" thru ???...towards 'g' and 'h', they are (as they isolate these)considered "anabolic"....but I'd say on a kindergarten level! DP

09-11-2002, 12:03 PM	#8
basskiller Capt'n Finaplix Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: From the Deep Dark Bowels of a Land called FINA! The place where only the Strongest Craziest Muther Fuckers Dare to Go! Posts: 10	avanar is the safest!

09-13-2002, 08:52 AM	#12
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,415	Yes that is true! But NONE are free from side effects, and I think I can add 1-test and 4-ad topicals to that list now seeing how strong they are!
	www.sbmuscle.com

09-13-2002, 10:01 AM	#13
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Anavar is not known for being great for putting on weight either, if you do things right the side effects are slightly depressed natural test which is why you have recovery and time between cycles.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-13-2002, 11:37 AM	#14
marko Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 10	Safest steroid Hi there I have read that the safest and gentlest injectable steroid is Primobolan Depot. It has so little side effects that some pros use it to bridge in between their heavier mass cycles. They inject 1 vial (200 mg)per week. Its effects are such that you keep increasing your muscle mass slowly and evenly, and the gains are permanent. Using it between cycles will prevent the famous catabolic state that happens commonly in the weeks after you terminate a cycle, when you see a loss of some body weight. It stacks very well with Winstrol during a cutting cycle. Bye all.

09-13-2002, 12:25 PM	#15
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Gains can be "permanent" because they are slow in coming, and thats provided you eat right. It will still degrade your natural test levels as will anything, if you really care then DO NOT BRIDGE. However even women use Primo, 100mg or sometimes more. As for winny, I won't touch it
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-13-2002, 07:47 PM	#16
5abi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: calgary Posts: 96	mr mudge lol, y won't u touch winny?

09-13-2002, 09:14 PM	#17
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	I already have problems with my left arm if I lift heavy (~5 reps) for extended periods of time (3 days or so I have problems), I am not going to compete, so I don't want to risk ripping myself to peices. National competitor on another board recently detatched on of his forearm muscles doing reverse grip rows.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

09-13-2002, 09:27 PM	#18
Belial Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 42	Almost any steroid can be safe! You think endocrinologists are putting their HRT (We're talking men here) in danger by giving them testosterone? The trick is not to fall into the "more is better" trap. Primo at 300-400mg a week should be fairly safe and low on sides (that's 3-4 amps), test around 400-500mg a week is similarly not usually a problem (though if you are gyno prone, forget it). EQ is another mild one.. anavar likewise. However, orals are liver toxic usually, so I'd say avoid them... deca is HORRIBLE for post cycle recovery, tren is simply too androgenic to be considered "safe", the list goes on. Basically, EQ, primo, and anavar are your best bets.
Belial Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 42

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