Bear with me fellas! (and ladies) just trying to expand my knowledge base.
My admittedly basic understanding of AAS is that as a whole, they assist in building muscle through protein synthesis. To achieve muscle building, you must be in a caloric surplus, while to cut you must be in a caloric deficit. Correct?
So wouldn't a cutting cycle be a misnomer? Or is generally speaking about AAS used during T3/Clen cycles to assist in maintaining the muscle?
I generally cut after cycling, well after PCT, and through diet not the use of any of the supplements you mentioned. I just try to eat as clean as possible, cut calories a bit and stay consistent with my training, while upping low-impact cardio. My training is lower volume and I tend to use a lot of weight and focus on compound movements in an attempt to hold onto my gains. But I'm not looking at competing in shows, either.
I'm not going to to get into all the science behind it but with AAS and powerful stims like clen/eca you CAN put on a decent amount of muscle while losing a good amount of bodyfat.
Unlike a "natural" cut where you will almost inevitably lose some muscle in the process of cutting(depending on how on cue you are with the necessary dietary and training parameters).
The use of anabolics seems to improve nutrient rationing as well as helping to preserve muscle mass while in a fat burning state. I wish I had the exact stats but on my last cycle of test, deca, eca and clen on and off I stayed at almost the same weight(only a 3-4lbs increase on the scale), but I think I gained about 10-15 solid lbs of muscle while dropping to about 7% bodyfat.
I'm not going to to get into all the science behind it but with AAS and powerful stims like clen/eca you CAN put on a decent amount of muscle while losing a good amount of bodyfat.
Unlike a "natural" cut where you will almost inevitably lose some muscle in the process of cutting(depending on how on cue you are with the necessary dietary and training parameters).
The use of anabolics seems to improve nutrient rationing as well as helping to preserve muscle mass while in a fat burning state. I wish I had the exact stats but on my last cycle of test, deca, eca and clen on and off I stayed at almost the same weight(only a 3-4lbs increase on the scale), but I think I gained about 10-15 solid lbs of muscle while dropping to about 7% bodyfat.
DaBeast25 - Based on the results you listed, this sounds like an awesome cycle. Could you post the full cycle so I can take a look at the numbers? Very interested in a solid cutting cycle. I'm currently doing a PH cycle and expect to be around 235lb at 14-16%BF by mid July. I have decided to run a real cycle in September and would prefer a stack that will limit bloat and continue to cut BF. Thanks.
If you're running a cycle in september I'd personally want to do more of a bulk. That doesn't mean you have to look like a balloon just eat clean very low sodium diet and use an AI throughout.
Anyway, here it is...
Weeks 1-15 Test E ~500/week
Weeks 1-13 Deca ~300/week (frontloaded with 600mg first 2 shots)
Weeks 1-3 Test P 100mg shot eod for 350mg/week
Adex at .5mg eod (I think)
hcg 250iu twice a week from week 3-15
Dont remember when I started the clen to be honest but it was my first time using it so I ramped up following the reccomended protocol. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, never went above 140mcg/day. I also used the eca stack up to 3 times/day during the times I didn't use clen. With that said my beta receptors were completely shot afterwards and it took my a while to have normal energy levels after it all.
Pct was clomid 150/100/100/50 starting week 17.
If you have any other questions just pm me or open a new thread, I dont wanna hijack here
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