Thread: Which is better for 1st Cycle

I cant comment on those two brands since I have not used them personally. Hopefully someone who has can jump in with first hand experience. However I can comment on your choice of compounds. IMO use cyp. There is no need for you to change your dose. Since this will be your first cycle 500mgs per week should get you some good results. Make sure you use a ai. Are you going to do HCG during and are you familiar with doseing? Do you have everything planned and on hand for PCT? There are some great sticky's on these subjects. Dont make the mistake that so many do and start off half cocked and then when a problem comes up you dont have what you need. Plan it all out on paper, list everything you will need, when you have everything start a log with your dates and doseages. When to take ai's, when to take HCG, when to start PCT, etc. No skipped doses of anything or skipped workouts, or supps.

Originally Posted by aja44

Interested in hearing what you guys think between running a first cycle of Cypionate or Phenyl. The cyp is either in 200mg or 250mg while the Phenyl that I found is only 100mg. I was planning on originally running Cyp w/ a oral kicker for the first 4 weeks and someone recommended I look at Phenyl as another option. I was going to run the cyp for 10 weeks starting out at 500mg per week up to 1000mg per week.

What would be a recommended cycle and dosage for Phenyl?

Also, if staying with Cyp, what is your preference between GP and BD?

TPP is a wonderful vesitile compound. You can certainlly use it in place of Cyp if you can find it in the correct doseages or will'n to pin an extra day. TPP can be found at good source's in painless injects up to 200mg, although 150 mg is more common.Take'n everything I just said into consideration, I'd still think that perhaps Cyp would be less complicated and easier to manage than TPP for an inexperienced user. I also agree with my Homey Roaddking about " a lil dab will you do ya " in the sense that being new to this your system will respond like crazy with low doseages.I also agree with the idea that you need to have all your AI's and Serm's in place before you start. I always say if you don't have more recovery compounds than AAS compounds.........your cycle ain't ready yet !
As far as brand names, back when that was important to me They were all still legit and good products. over the years I've found name brands and quality don't always mean the same thing . Check out Uncle Z if you are interested in sponsers here. Solid guy, been in the game awhile, pretty reasonable price'n, and he doe's have real products. The other's here I have'nt used or simply don't trust. That bein said enjoy your first run, MAN you are gonna have a load of fun if you follow proper protocol. I'm jealous ! LOLOL Maybe I'm off here, but for some reasome I don't know if an oral kick start would even be somethin needed on a first cycle. Sorta seems like Test at 500 or 600mg a week would be plenty. But what the hell do I know. Less compounds and fluxuations and possible sides to deal with just in my opinion would be the way to go.





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Thanks guys for the replys. Yes, I posted my full first cycle about a week ago and someone suggested to me that TPP would be another chose over Cyp sinces its a shorter ester with great results. I did find it on another vendor, but only at 100mg/ml and that is why I posed the question. Wanted to know the correct dosage needed for similiar results and how often to pin. If its actually better than Cyp, I would be willing to pin 200mg every 3 days as opposed to 2 x 250mg per week.

My planned cycle was as follows:
Week 1-4 - 15mg Metabolin per Day
Week 1-5 - 500mg Cyp
Week 6-8 - 800mg Cyp
Week 9-10 - 1000mg Cyp
0.5mg Arimidex per day
500iu HCG twice per week
10g Creatine and 3g Vitamin C per day
Liv-52 through cycle and PCT

PCT
Day 1-16 - 1000iu HCG EOD
Clomid - Weeks 1-3 @100mg per day and Week 4 @ 50mg per day
Weeks 1-3 - 1mg Arimidex per day and Week 4 @ .5 per day
Nolva on hand

If you guys think that TPP at 3x200mg per week for 10-12 weeks would be better than that is what I will do and will keep the Metabolin for the 4 week kicker. Does everything else look good? Looking to start this cycle in the fall, just looking now to get the best pricing from different sites and begin ordering.

Man Superman has to be one the best most polite and yet helpful guys on here! Listen to him and the others.

For a first cycle though bro there is no need in hell to up your dose from 500 for the whole cycle. Since your fresh at it, more is not needed.

Steady dose all the way through will work well for first run. Good luck!

Thanks all for the feedback. So the consensus seems to be to stick with the Cyp over the TPP and run it for 10-12 weeks at 2x250mg per week.

Does everyone feel that I have the right kicker for running Cyp and the right dosages for HCG, Arimidex during cycle and then for my PCT?

One other question I might as well ask, is the Cyp from WP better than that from UncleZ or NG? If memory is correct, UncleZ has Cyp250 at around $69 per 10ml vial and NG is not that much different. WP has Cypiobolic 200mg/ml vials at $170 per 10ml. Are these two different compounds? Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Still wont let me rep you Superman, but great posts and great info as always.