Testosterone Enanthate and Dianabol cycle PCT help
hey whats up guys. I was wondering if you guys can help me out with my PCT cycle. I am planning on using Testosterone Enanthate - Weeks 1-12 @ 500mg/week and Dianabol - Weeks 1-4 @ 30-40mg/day and I was wondering what a good PCT cycle would be so I gain minimum water and keep most of my gains at the end. I was planning on using nolvadex and clomid but I heard that arimidex is better than nolvadex so should I not get nolvadex? I was just wondering on when to start using them as well and for how long as well as how much mg is required. All help will be greatly appreciated.
that sounds good for a cycle but 50 mg of d-bol if your over 220lbs would be better. your pct i would use hcg 1,000- 1,500 ius 10 days after last shot but before that do clomid and nolvadex for 2-3 wks clomid 100mg 3-5 days then 50mg the rest of the way. if you really think you need nolva use it but not neccesary unless you got estrogen sides and take tribulus 250 - 500mg for the whole time your off the cycle until you start your next one. good luck but you have it down basically. imo
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your cycle is great.
add some deca or bold in cycle,400mg week
for pct take clomids+hcg
hcg 2 x 2000-2500iu for 2 weeks after cycle
clomids first day 200mg,next 10 days 100mg and next 10 days 50mg a day
HCG is hard for me to get and it's expensive so can't I just run arimidex throughout the cycle and clomid 2 weeks after last shot and btw this is my first ever cycle.
I was wondering if HCG is only an injectable or it comes in oral as well and if it does is there any significant difference between the oral and injectable.
HCG is hard for me to get and it's expensive so can't I just run arimidex throughout the cycle and clomid 2 weeks after last shot and btw this is my first ever cycle.
Originally Posted by mikecheema
I was wondering if HCG is only an injectable or it comes in oral as well and if it does is there any significant difference between the oral and injectable.
HCG is cheap. I get mine for like $12 or less for a 2000iu vial.
..and no, injectable only. Pin it sub-q though so it is pain free. I use a 30x0.5g to pin HCG. Literally mean it when I say I can't even feel it.
I go along with the posters saying HCG during cycle is the way to go. 250iu's 2x per week throughout entire cycle. And like Tyler said HCG is cheap when you find where to get it. It's well worth it trust me my friend. You'r testes will atrophy and you will be shut down. The HCG can help to eliminate the testes from getting small and make your PCT that much easier. Dont wait until the end of a cycle to fix a problem, keep it from ever becoming a problem. I use both clomid and nolvadex for PCT. What I'm doing this time is 50mgs clomid and 20mgs nolvadex 4 weeks and then a fifth week with just nolvadex at 10mgs. Some start their clomid higher for the first week or so but this seems to be working very well for me.
how far after your last injection are you starting you clomid. and if your testies do begin gettin smaller or "Shut Down" is it recoverable and what should your immediate reaction be?? just wondering in case i want to know it all just in case you know
how far after your last injection are you starting you clomid. and if your testies do begin gettin smaller or "Shut Down" is it recoverable and what should your immediate reaction be?? just wondering in case i want to know it all just in case you know
PCT start time depends on the compound you are running.
21 days after last deca pin.
21 days after last EQ pin.
18 days after last sust pin.
18 days after last enanth pin.
14 days after last cyp pin.
3 days after last prop pin.
etc, etc, etc..
Thanks for posting it. I was a bit off on my calculations for example this last cycle was enathate and I started PCT 14 days after last pin. Not a big deal I dont think but I was a bit off. I will be doing PCT for a whole month with a fifth week with just 10mgs nolvadex just to taper. What I'm experimenting with on this PCT is clomid 50, nolva 20 and like I said a fifth week thrown in there with 10. Seems to be working well. I'm half way through. As we know some people reccomend clomid starting higher but I felt like since I'm including nolva I could get good results with 50mgs and possibly eliminate and sides.
Just wanted to add that you should forget your pipe dreams of not picking up water weight! I am on that cycle right now and have gained 16lbs in less than a week. I wish I could say that it is muscle and cock, but its pretty much all water baby.
Of course I could have been less of a cheap fuck and ran arimidex to maybe keep me dry, but meh....whats a man to do? I like the new watery me.
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