Stretch marks way too soon

**yuyigear** · 06-10-2010, 08:31 PM

Guys. I know most of you will hate this thread. I apologize in advance if it sounds wrong to your hears....this is the issue.

I am currently running my first cycle 500mg of test enanthate twice per week @ 250mg. Along with equipoise at 600mg also split in two injections sun and thur. Hcg 250 iu twice a week and arimidex .05 eod.

I have been making great progress and so far I have put on some muscle and 10 pounds since I started. I workout hard, my arms and shoulders are getting quite large and I think way too quick. As a result of the fast growth I am getting stretch marks which I started noticing today after my chest workout. They are very small yet hardly noticeable, but I make a huge deal out of them. I didn't think I would get them since I already have a couple on my underarm that are quite large and usually you wouldn't get more because the skin is already stretching through the open ones. Well they are there and coming out. I don't think is worth it! you will not be able to show your body full of these ugly scars. My question would be. I am running two long easter steroids, I have been looking into short cycle and maybe this will be the solution to grow slower and less side effects. The issue is that I am running these compounds and they are not ideal for short cycles.

What should I do? I would really appreciate your input. I hate stretch marks!

**heavyiron** · 06-10-2010, 08:34 PM

I have huge stretch marks but since I am a man it does not bother me....

**yuyigear** · 06-10-2010, 08:43 PM

Lol! Good answer my friend! I agree with you, but I still don't like them, cuz like you I already have some and are not small, they are just under arm and they don't bother me, but these are coming out on my deltoids and I don't think is worth been huge and also torn with ugly stretch marks. A couple here and there are ok, but too many are not nice!

I want to find a way to maybe grow slower and avoid these issues. Unfortunately it takes a first time to deal with the side effects of crossing your genetics borderline. This is my first cycle and I didn't count with these little fuckers to show up on my week 4th when I am not even close to start seriously growing.

**Tyler3295** · 06-10-2010, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by yuyigear

Lol! Good answer my friend! I agree with you, but I still don't like them, cuz like you I already have some and are not small, they are just under arm and they don't bother me, but these are coming out on my deltoids and I don't think is worth been huge and also torn with ugly stretch marks. A couple here and there are ok, but too many are not nice!

I want to find a way to maybe grow slower and avoid these issues. Unfortunately it takes a first time to deal with the side effects of crossing your genetics borderline. This is my first cycle and I didn't count with these little fuckers to show up on my week 4th when I am not even close to start seriously growing.

If stretch marks really make you that butt hurt and you want to grow slower get off cycle.

I'm with heavy. I'm a man so I don't care about them. ..and yes, the muscles and strength ARE worth the stretch marks.

**heavyiron** · 06-10-2010, 08:59 PM

Looks like a badge of honor to me...

**pimprn** · 06-10-2010, 09:03 PM

try putting bio oil or vitamin E cream or lotion at least.

**yuyigear** · 06-10-2010, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Looks like a badge of honor to me...

Speechless!

**yuyigear** · 06-10-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by pimprn

try putting bio oil or vitamin E cream or lotion at least.

Bro thanks for the positive advice! I have been using bio oil. They are so small I am not even sure if they are really stretch marks, but I am certain I am prone to them. I have similar stretch marks like in the moderator picture, but underarm. You don't usually get these bitches all over. Once you have the hinge, that's it. I was hoping not to see anymore of those!

But aside of this subject. What is the shortest cycle I can do based on the compounds I am using? I don't want huge! I am almost where I want to be, but I am only 4 weeks in.

Would it make sense to slow down on the heavy weight and kind of turning the rest of the cycle into cutting? Just brainstorming! I appreciate wise advice. Thank you all!

**Silver_Back** · 06-10-2010, 09:40 PM

Did the guy in the pic have a double chin?

**heavyiron** · 06-10-2010, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Saney

Did the guy in the pic have a double chin?

lol

**Tyler3295** · 06-10-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by heavyiron

lol

Vascular-ness!

**Roaddkingg** · 06-10-2010, 11:26 PM

How long did you plan to run the cycle for? I see you are in week four and I'm sure you are ware that EQ doesnt start hitting for 4-5 weeks and is generally run for 12-16 weeks. You may want to just stop the EQ continue with the test at 500 and just finish out your 10 weeks since it seems you are responding VERY well already. I have a theory on short cycles and I have been doing a bit of research lately. Perhaps tomarrow I will make a new post with my ideas and we will get some others opinions of their effectivness.

**yuyigear** · 06-11-2010, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Roaddkingg

How long did you plan to run the cycle for? I see you are in week four and I'm sure you are ware that EQ doesnt start hitting for 4-5 weeks and is generally run for 12-16 weeks. You may want to just stop the EQ continue with the test at 500 and just finish out your 10 weeks since it seems you are responding VERY well already. I have a theory on short cycles and I have been doing a bit of research lately. Perhaps tomarrow I will make a new post with my ideas and we will get some others opinions of their effectivness.

Thanks big bro for always getting involved on all my posts!

I have been reading a lot on short cycles, but I was way too exited about my first cycle and I choose not necessarily the ideal compounds to run a 4 to 6 weeker cycle. I have read that you can use long esters as long as you frontload to get the levels high fast. I have also read that not everyone reacts the same way to the frontload doses and it is much safer to use short esters for short cycles. To me they make perfect sense. Most books say their benefits are way better than long cycles. You get to keep most of your gains and the side effects specially on your libids are minimal. Some of them consider the use of AI completely unecessary for post cycle which I don't agree with.

I was thinking about stopping the eq on week 5 and cotinue running the test e for three more weeks and close up the cycle on 8 weeks. It is not that short of a cycle, but since it is my first I think AAS work way too well on me. I have responded to these compounds quite well. Hardly no water retention, no acne and no gyno signs so far. Hopefully I am able to recover fast through my pct. For sure I will not run a long cycle again! 30 pounds of muscle could definately have a toll on the skin and I am not willing to pay that price. Think about it, gains may go and skin is already torn! They will stay there forever. The same applies to the gyno! Short cycles sound safe, gains and side effects are moderate and you will be able to come in and out way more effectively. I don't see any reasons to run long ass cycles considering the side effects they bring along unless to those in the professional world which short cycles might not get them to their goals.

**Flathead** · 06-11-2010, 06:59 AM

I guess having stretch marks has never concerned me. But it's tuff to have the best of both worlds, in regards to building large quantites of muscle mass & not getting stretch marks (especially on gear). Stretch marks are part of the trade off, period. So you're going to have to pick your poison.

**Tyler3295** · 06-11-2010, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Roaddkingg

... I see you are in week four and I'm sure you are ware that EQ doesnt start hitting for 4-5 weeks ...

Umm, EQ generally takes more in the 7-19 week range to REALLY kick in. I've never heard of EQ kicking in in 4 weeks. I'm sure it HAS happened somewhere I suppose...

Originally Posted by yuyigear

... I choose not necessarily the ideal compounds to run a 4 to 6 weeker cycle. I have read that you can use long esters as long as you frontload to get the levels high fast. ...

I was thinking about stopping the eq on week 5 and cotinue running the test e for three more weeks and close up the cycle on 8 weeks. ...

Like said above, you quit the EQ on week 5 it would've been waisted. ..and frontloading is a myth. Perhaps you mean KICKSTARTING long ester cycles with short ester compounds.

4-6 week cycles are too short IMO. Prop @ 8 weeks would be the shortest cycle I would even CONSIDER.

**Mr.BTB** · 06-11-2010, 09:49 AM

Man when I gained to much much weight fast I got them under my arm's, but these day's I keep the skin hydrated, with Kuush balm cream. I mean yeah my familes business makes it but its fucken good. there is no water in it which means it wont dehydrate the skin, I mean if the skin could absorb water we would not be able to shower with out filling up. anyway thats a whole diff subject for the chemists in my family lol.

Bottom line is use oil like others have said or non water based balms.

All the best champ.

**Silver_Back** · 06-11-2010, 06:34 PM

Ok Heavy, the guy in the Second pic could most likely Bone me anyday of the week.. But the first pic had a double chin no doubt

**heavyiron** · 06-11-2010, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Saney

Ok Heavy, the guy in the Second pic could most likely Bone me anyday of the week.. But the first pic had a double chin no doubt

LOL, I was looking down in the first pic and my chin was kinda smashed against my pec but hey even if it was a double chin that just means more cushion for the pushin...

just sayin...

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