Thread: first cycle help

19 is to young but when your dead set against it dont take heavy dosages your first cycle 250mg test e 2xs a week is enough plus pct clomid ,hcg, dont use nolvadex unless u need for estrogen sides. tribulus 250mg- 500mg ed. clomid would be 50mg for 14 days and hcg 500ius 2xs wk for 2 wks. but i advise you wait till 25 or so. but i no u wont listen. imho

Originally Posted by unclem

19 is to young but when your dead set against it dont take heavy dosages your first cycle 250mg test e 2xs a week is enough plus pct clomid ,hcg, dont use nolvadex unless u need for estrogen sides. tribulus 250mg- 500mg ed. clomid would be 50mg for 14 days and hcg 500ius 2xs wk for 2 wks. but i advise you wait till 25 or so. but i no u wont listen. imho

If someone isn't smart enough to take our advice and NOT cycle at 19 shouldn't we let them learn the hard way? Rather than walking them through it.. They don't want to listen, let them figure it all out.

what are all the problems involved with sarting a cycle at 19?

Originally Posted by AXrip

what are all the problems involved with sarting a cycle at 19?

Google.

lol well i know it messes up your growth plates and your hormones get outa whack but that doesnt sound thatt bad..
i heard it ages your like internal organs quickly is that b/s or is it true

And still, no info on your diet.

I grow bored.

lol dont worry built i'll get to it
im just on my ipod right now once i can download it i will post the info up

Originally Posted by AXrip

lol well i know it messes up your growth plates and your hormones get outa whack but that doesnt sound thatt bad..
i heard it ages your like internal organs quickly is that b/s or is it true

It can also jack up your HPTA and endrocrine system for life.

just read up on those andd to be honest, too be messin with those doesnt sound to appealing.
what kinda recovery roads are there from those or are there even any that you've heard of

Originally Posted by AXrip

just read up on those andd to be honest, too be messin with those doesnt sound to appealing.
what kinda recovery roads are there from those or are there even any that you've heard of

Lots of people that start young end up on TRT/HRT for life.

I was 135lbs and 6" 1' when I graduated from highschool. I was a cross country runner so I was a hard gainer for sure. I started lifting at 18 and by 20 I weighed 150lbs. I started eating and taking protien 6 times a day like everyone told me to do and I was taking a whole bunch of supplements (creatine, HMB, Glutamine) but my gains were unnoticable. I decided to started eating or taking a protien shake every 2 hours which equated to 8 times a day and that is when I stared noticing gains. I was carrying around a back pack with pre-made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and protein shakes. I am 31 now and I sit at about 190lbs when I am on a consistent workout and dieting schedule.

I guess what I am saying is that I agree with school of thought that says your are a little young to start trying gear. You have to try everything else and gain as much naturally as you can before you try gear. I gained 40lbs naturally before I tried AAS. Dedicate yourself to your workout and proper amount of protien intake and you will gain naturally.

seriously!!! Dont make a mistake an use aas at 19!! I dont know what to say man, your not ready, not at that weight. If your the same weight when you turn 21 then shoot up, and stop running=burning calories. Lift HEAVY

It actually plays no part in the premature closing of growth plates, but as far as hormones, if your not fully developed, you could be in some serious long term hurt. HRT

Originally Posted by AXrip

lol well i know it messes up your growth plates and your hormones get outa whack but that doesnt sound thatt bad..
i heard it ages your like internal organs quickly is that b/s or is it true

Originally Posted by btex34n88

It actually plays no part in the premature closing of growth plates, but as far as hormones, if your not fully developed, you could be in some serious long term hurt. HRT

Actually, AAS can halt growth prematurely in adolescent. Once the growth plates are closed, they can't "re-open", so yeah. Just wait.

Originally Posted by axrip

so ive been reading some forum threads, trying to piece together a good first cycle. Im only trying to put on weight, i have been tryin to since i started training.

Been eating like a tank for 3 years and i have only put on 10 pounds.. Im getin kinda sick of tryin so i decided to flip to the dark side to throw on the pounds ive been searching for.

I am 19 y/o 5'11 160

anywayys this is what i think im gonna do for my first cycle.
Criticism would be greatly appreciated



500mgs / test enanthate or cyp // week 1 - 5 //
400mgs / deca
30mgs / dbol ( everyday )

500mgs / test enanthate or cyp // week 5 - 12 //
400mgs / deca

pct // 3 weeks novaldex ( i dont know how much novaldex i should be taking a little help there please )

hey my friend i can give the 8 week cycle i use you will se resolts the 1st 4 weeks and for that what you need is supertest 250mg. X 10cc,,,,,nandralone (deca)200mg. X 10 cc. And 2 bottles dianabol 10mg x/100 that means you 200 pills gor further info im me at

Originally Posted by Tyler3295

If someone isn't smart enough to take our advice and NOT cycle at 19 shouldn't we let them learn the hard way? Rather than walking them through it.. They don't want to listen, let them figure it all out.

point weell taken tyler. i just thought i would trow it in there somewhere. yes i will help rather than preacher as that dont work so i did tell him to take test E OR cyp 2xs wk injects for 12 wks. boy my grammer is horrific by the way. lol imo

Try this 8 week cycle..1 bottle. Supertest 250mg x 10 cc,,,,,,1 bottle deca-durabolin 200 mg x 10 cc. And 2 bottles dianabol 100 x 10 mg. On week 1 monday morning take 1/2 cc supertest250, on wednesday morning take 1/2 cc deca.200(week 2) mdy 1 cc stest250. Wed. 1 cc deca 200 (week3) mday 1 1/2CC stest 250, on wed. 1 1/2CC deca 200.(week 4) MDAY 2cc stest 250. Wed 2cc deca 200, (week5) mday 2.cc. Stest 250, wed. 2.cc. Deca.200. (week6) 1 1/2cc. Stest 250. Wed 1 1/2CC deca 200. (week 7) mday. 1 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1 cc. Deca 200. (week 8) 1/2 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1/2 cc. Deca 200...and (dianabol >) (days wed,tue,wed, and thur. Take 2 pills x day). (from friday thru sunday take 3 pills x day) (then for the next 42 days take 4 pills x day thats a 6 weeks). (then for the next 3 days take 3 pills X day), (then for the next 6 days take 2 pills x day)....that gives you 200 pills of dianabol in 8 week cycle......you will see results

Originally Posted by ZPARTAN

Try this 8 week cycle..1 bottle. Supertest 250mg x 10 cc,,,,,,1 bottle deca-durabolin 200 mg x 10 cc. And 2 bottles dianabol 100 x 10 mg. On week 1 monday morning take 1/2 cc supertest250, on wednesday morning take 1/2 cc deca.200(week 2) mdy 1 cc stest250. Wed. 1 cc deca 200 (week3) mday 1 1/2CC stest 250, on wed. 1 1/2CC deca 200.(week 4) MDAY 2cc stest 250. Wed 2cc deca 200, (week5) mday 2.cc. Stest 250, wed. 2.cc. Deca.200. (week6) 1 1/2cc. Stest 250. Wed 1 1/2CC deca 200. (week 7) mday. 1 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1 cc. Deca 200. (week 8) 1/2 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1/2 cc. Deca 200...and (dianabol >) (days wed,tue,wed, and thur. Take 2 pills x day). (from friday thru sunday take 3 pills x day) (then for the next 42 days take 4 pills x day thats a 6 weeks). (then for the next 3 days take 3 pills X day), (then for the next 6 days take 2 pills x day)....that gives you 200 pills of dianabol in 8 week cycle......you will see results

Seriously?

Dude, dont even think about PMing this guy.

I can't believe some of the advice this kid is getting.

To the OP you are no where near ready to do a cycle.

For starters your diet is crap.

You seriously need to look into the following cycel.

SQUAT DEAD BENCH ROW OVERHEAD PRESS
EAT
SLEEP

You are no where near your genetic limits. Train hard and google John Beraldi Massive Eating.

As someone else said if 4000 cals ain't enough

Eat 6000

7000

etc

It's your diet mate.

Good luck!

also i say again, built or juggernut is best for diets, go to them for that. opps, looks like he was real interested.

Originally Posted by zpartan

try this 8 week cycle..1 bottle. Supertest 250mg x 10 cc,,,,,,1 bottle deca-durabolin 200 mg x 10 cc. And 2 bottles dianabol 100 x 10 mg. On week 1 monday morning take 1/2 cc supertest250, on wednesday morning take 1/2 cc deca.200(week 2) mdy 1 cc stest250. Wed. 1 cc deca 200 (week3) mday 1 1/2cc stest 250, on wed. 1 1/2cc deca 200.(week 4) mday 2cc stest 250. Wed 2cc deca 200, (week5) mday 2.cc. Stest 250, wed. 2.cc. Deca.200. (week6) 1 1/2cc. Stest 250. Wed 1 1/2cc deca 200. (week 7) mday. 1 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1 cc. Deca 200. (week 8) 1/2 cc. Stest 250. Wed. 1/2 cc. Deca 200...and (dianabol >) (days wed,tue,wed, and thur. Take 2 pills x day). (from friday thru sunday take 3 pills x day) (then for the next 42 days take 4 pills x day thats a 6 weeks). (then for the next 3 days take 3 pills x day), (then for the next 6 days take 2 pills x day)....that gives you 200 pills of dianabol in 8 week cycle......you will see results

dam!! That's 2 much!!