Thread: Newbie needing some advise

I am actually trying to cut up and gain lean muscle mass at same time.. my body fat % is a little high and i wanna cut that down some... anything to help me with that??

before following the under written , u shld hv a natural training exp. of atleast 2 yrs.

man i used dbol cycle week 1-4 20-30 mg then week 5-6 tarpe down 300,20,15

then , a clomid pct 100/50/50

hv lost of protein and stop eating fatty food , drink lots of water

this is ur first cycle , u need not to worry about gyno and all thats

i had 10 dbol only cycles ,in past , all were fine , only now i started injctables.


good luck.

do you think that i should be using something like winny to help me cut some.. I have been training for a lil over 2 years.. but the last thing i wanna get is gyno.. is there any sites you would recommend to use for getting the gear?

Originally Posted by sar012977

do you think that i should be using something like winny to help me cut some.. I have been training for a lil over 2 years.. but the last thing i wanna get is gyno.. is there any sites you would recommend to use for getting the gear?

A winny only cycle will blow.

Man up and pin some test.

No winni , is a no no + , when u come off an aas cycle , u will see 1-2 months after that u tend to lose some weight , so u get cut naturally , dont opt for winni now , this may terrify you , but i hv to tell.

winni orals are very hard on the liver , if i say very i mean very ....
Nothing will protect ur liver from it , i hv seen ppl doing evething , but
never did their liver values came down

and

now winni inj. , these are too painful for a first timer + at times the nedle jams and u hv to poke urself a couple of times , aftr that a week of long ass pain in inj. Site .

winni is too costly + u may suffer from joint pains when on it .

I hv seen this happening for many years , the thing which amazes me is that ppl still go for it .

an easy way out , for cuting cycle , use test propionate at 200 mg per week for 6 week

it dsnt aromatize much and will give u good lean mass .

Dont fear needle , i completed my first inj. Cycle yesterday , use a 25g needle to inj. , you wont even know a prick

for administration of im inj. , tons of videos on youtube , it helped me a lot .

Good luck

I GET ALL MY GEAR FROM AN IMPORTER FROM THAILAND , REAL GOOD SHIT

TRUSTED BRANDS > THAIGER , GLOBAL ANABOLICS AND MARCH PHARMA

FOR U , i wld tel www dot thai-steroidsdirect dot com

some ppl i know buy from here , good stuff ,low prices , i think they will give discount on big orders.

but getting through customs is a tedious task , get a prescription first , if u cant

leave everthing to god

be careful , custom ppl are very tricky , always watch ur back.

or simply , firstly get to a supplement dealer in ur area and i can bet 100% that , he would tell u where to go for gear

SECRET ALL SUPPLEMENT DEALERS AND STEROID DEALERS , THEY R ONE .

JUST FIND A SUPPLEMENT DEALER , BUY SOMETHING FROM HIM , THN ASK FOR GEAR , HE WILL TELL U , WORKS EVERY TIME .

yea first cycle you should look into test only, followed by pct of clomid and nolva, thats all you need, understand how your body reacts to one compound before you start with multiple compounds.

USE TEST CYPIONATE 100/100/200/200/200/200/100/100/100

THIS WILL GIVE U 20-30 LBS. OF MASS , WITH GOOD DIET , TRAIN. & REST

KEEP NOLVA AND AIs in hand , just i case .

Originally Posted by noormuscle

No winni , is a no no + , when u come off an aas cycle , u will see 1-2 months after that u tend to lose some weight , so u get cut naturally , dont opt for winni now , this may terrify you , but i hv to tell.

winni orals are very hard on the liver , if i say very i mean very ....
Nothing will protect ur liver from it , i hv seen ppl doing evething , but
never did their liver values came down

and

now winni inj. , these are too painful for a first timer + at times the nedle jams and u hv to poke urself a couple of times , aftr that a week of long ass pain in inj. Site .

winni is too costly + u may suffer from joint pains when on it .

I hv seen this happening for many years , the thing which amazes me is that ppl still go for it .

an easy way out , for cuting cycle , use test propionate at 200 mg per week for 6 week

it dsnt aromatize much and will give u good lean mass .

Dont fear needle , i completed my first inj. Cycle yesterday , use a 25g needle to inj. , you wont even know a prick

for administration of im inj. , tons of videos on youtube , it helped me a lot .

Good luck

Originally Posted by noormuscle

I GET ALL MY GEAR FROM AN IMPORTER FROM THAILAND , REAL GOOD SHIT

TRUSTED BRANDS > THAIGER , GLOBAL ANABOLICS AND MARCH PHARMA

FOR U , i wld tel www dot thai-steroidsdirect dot com

some ppl i know buy from here , good stuff ,low prices , i think they will give discount on big orders.

but getting through customs is a tedious task , get a prescription first , if u cant

leave everthing to god

be careful , custom ppl are very tricky , always watch ur back.

or simply , firstly get to a supplement dealer in ur area and i can bet 100% that , he would tell u where to go for gear

SECRET ALL SUPPLEMENT DEALERS AND STEROID DEALERS , THEY R ONE .

JUST FIND A SUPPLEMENT DEALER , BUY SOMETHING FROM HIM , THN ASK FOR GEAR , HE WILL TELL U , WORKS EVERY TIME .

Listen bro I've sat back and watched ya ramble on an on and something has become clear. Just a couple days ago you were asking for advise and now your giving it you also said on another thread you buy your gear OTC Test Prop dosent really aromatize much? Really? 200mg a week of Testosterone? Again really? Listen respectfully you dont know what your talking about and you should stop. People come here for good advise so Ima give you some...Just sit back watch the board and learn some stuff before ya get someone killed. Have a good day

x2

as i was reading i was like someone has to jump in here,
jcar is 100% right on the money. please dont give advice that you dont have experience with, even then there are plenty of good vets on hear to help people out. leave it to them, read, and learn!!!

ok , whtever u tell , u boss

i tell wht i know from my exp.

yes i can GET stuff from OTC , i live in INDIA LAWS R DIFFERENT HERE .

YES I HV SEEN PPL WHO HV USED TEST P ON CUTTING CYCLE AT 200MG

U DONT BELIEVE IT DONT U , OK IM NOT HERE TO FIGHT



I MEAN NO OFFENCE TO NO ONE .

hey who edited my post

yes please dont anyone give me f'd up advice.. I am new and dont wanna really get a bad taste the first time around...

is there any vets that can seriously help me out here??

Originally Posted by sar012977

yes please dont anyone give me f'd up advice.. I am new and dont wanna really get a bad taste the first time around...

is there any vets that can seriously help me out here??

dude, just read the stickys on this forum, figure out your own cycle, and then ask the vets here to critque cycle,

Originally Posted by be_rad01

dude, just read the stickys on this forum, figure out your own cycle, and then ask the vets here to critque cycle,

gotcha... been working on that for the past couple of days and doing alot of reading and working out... thanks will repost a cycle after i figure out... its just my first time and i am trying to figure out whats the best thats all... not being experienced with it, thats why i asked??

Originally Posted by sar012977

I am actually trying to cut up and gain lean muscle mass at same time.. my body fat % is a little high and i wanna cut that down some... anything to help me with that??

Yeah, diet and cardio.

Drop your BF a bit first. Trust me you will be grateful that you have done this as you will see the gains a lot better with a lower BF. Once you have done this look into DBOL 30mg per day cycle no need to taper up or down or if you want to go for the injection route (which I would advise) then do a bit research into a basic test cycle around 500mg per week for 10-12 weeks followed by a solid PCT

Hope this helps

Thanks guys. I know body fat has to be lower.. what range would be a good time to start.. prolly below 20 or 15

also mastermind, man i been reading alot of reviews and comments to get my gear and have no idea.. i have a dude i kno that can et get gear but he is unreliable, so i can consider that not a place to be able to get it.... I want to get it all before i start so i have it on hand.. and ready.. any suggest??

Originally Posted by noormuscle

hey who edited my post

Your posts are dangerous and reckless. YOU SHOULD NOT BE GIVING ANY OPINIONS ABOUT GEAR. We are talking about altering your hormones here, this is serious and does have consequences if not done correctly. Please do some research and stop giving out poor advice. Thank you.

I wouldve posted a link to a fantastic thread on this forum but my post count is low so w/e.

I am also about to do my first cycle and nothing at all that I've read matched with what that guy up there was saying.

This is a sample I found which is basically going to be the cycle I'm planning on running.


Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly
Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly
Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly

10 mg Aromasin daily with the goal of keeping Estradiol between 10pg/ml-25pg/ml. Only blood work can confirm if you are in this range.

500iu HCG twice weekly.
**************************************************
PCT:
Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG eod.)

100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)

20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)

3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses



I do have a few questions for other users.
1. After my last injection what day do I start pct
2. How many days apart should I space the injections
3. Im confused between the differences between cypionate, enanthate, and propiate (sp?) and which would be most effective/best for first cycle.

if your 25 or older heres wat i would do read alot to get familiar with the different names and first time cycles. then cardio, diet, lower bf%. never start winni for first cycle. try test cyp or test e 500mg 1 x wk for 12 weeks. get correct injection info. then have a solid pct as clomid and hcg , but u can run hcg during your first cycle. start the hcg at 250ius 2xs wk. after 2 wks into cycle. good luck. if under 25 dont take any my advice use whey protein, bcaas. peace brother.

I agree with what Unclem said.


I would go with a board sponser that alot of these guys have tried and know are safe. My first option would be buying legit gear otc if you can.

Be smart brother