Thread: planning my lean bulk

Use deca or NPP instead of tren if you're going to bulk. ALWAYS run the test 2 weeks longer than the deca, NPP or tren, ALWAYS.

What are you using for the progesterone? Caber or Parmi.?

looking for a lean bulk, i dont want the long ester of the deca, so iguess i could use npp but i love tren!! and probably prami!!

Save the tren for a cutter.

NPP is your choice. A "lean bulk" is determined by your diet and cardio not which AAS you use.

Tren is REALLY harsh, you should really look at an alternative. It has the possibility of really screwing with your heart.

ive used it many times, and on it right now, so far so good but, im still thinking about the npp.

I would opt for tren e for test if that is not already your choice. WHat tren are you running, E?

im running ace right now and have in the past but for this cycle i was thinking trenE and testE,

I think the harshness of tren is over rated. If it were me and I wanted to put on some solid mass while keeping decent definition. Test, Tren and EQ or deca/npp.

There is one major side effect of trenbolone. You get too fucking strong way too fast.

Originally Posted by ROID

I think the harshness of tren is over rated. If it were me and I wanted to put on some solid mass while keeping decent definition. Test, Tren and EQ or deca/npp.

There is one major side effect of trenbolone. You get too fucking strong way too fast.

Just my opinion here and not bashing what you said at all, just trying to show you something from another point of view:

-There are no studies on tren in humans, because it isn't made for us.
-Getting too strong too fast is going to lead to injury.
-It causes a rise in the level of prostaglandins in the body, which
is great for fat burning and muscle gain, but causes inflammation in the
lungs. In my opinion over time this will cause the heart to have to work
harder and could lead to congestive heart failure.
-pulmonary microembolism

I'm not telling anyone not to use it I am just pointing out some of the concerns I personally have with it. That's why I never use it.

Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder

Just my opinion here and not bashing what you said at all, just trying to show you something from another point of view:

-There are no studies on tren in humans, because it isn't made for us.
-Getting too strong too fast is going to lead to injury.
-It causes a rise in the level of prostaglandins in the body, which
is great for fat burning and muscle gain, but causes inflammation in the
lungs. In my opinion over time this will cause the heart to have to work
harder and could lead to congestive heart failure.
-pulmonary microembolism

I'm not telling anyone not to use it I am just pointing out some of the concerns I personally have with it. That's why I never use it.

I was referring to the claims of liver failure, kidney failure, heart attack...

It's a potent chemical but people who preach the above are exaggerating.

WOW, i think if you run it at reasonable doses and take all the proper precautions you will have minimal sides.

and yes ROID, i would throw EQ in there especially for the hunger side effect bit @ only 8wks its pointless!!

Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder

Use deca or NPP instead of tren if you're going to bulk. ALWAYS run the test 2 weeks longer than the deca, NPP or tren, ALWAYS.

What are you using for the progesterone? Caber or Parmi.?

Use deca for lean bulk????Keep the tren bro,excellent compound for leaning and or bulking!!!New research on the compound says it has sarm affinities, putting you in an anabolic environment without too much affecting other organs!Lean gains are more a thing of dieting than using anabolics chemicals,anadrol will make you bother if your scale is still working well!!!I love the strength increase with this oral,would run it a little longer(6 wks)with liver protectants!!!
The AI will do the trick, if you find your prone to tren sides then adding caber or prami would be fine.If you're a first-time user go with the ace to assess your tolerance ,in a future cycle you'll be able to switch to longer esthers on a dosage your body handle well...
You're in for a good ride with a cycle like this...

Originally Posted by roid

i was referring to the claims of liver failure, kidney failure, heart attack...

it's a potent chemical but people who preach the above are exaggerating.

^^^+1

ya bro this will be my first run with anadrol and im looking forward to see what it does. ran tren many times on it as we speak@100mgeod with no sides what so ever except for strength and a little irratable, which makes me think i should try prami for the mood thing!!! always on liv53ds,and i could rin it for 6wks no prob!!

thanks for the input!