Thread: sus and deca

oh and what do you recomend?? is it going to work switching mid cycle or will that be a waste of the first bottles?

what do you mean by switch ? switch brands or switch to a different type steroid ?


what doses where you planning on ? You would get better results if you ran them together for at least 10 weeks

10wks 2xwk 1ml ea you should have enough!!

What are you trying to accomplish and how many cycles have you done in the past?

just done 3 cycles before did a sus250 and deca before at 2ml each a week and got good gains but it only lasted me a month i didnt know much in the way of pct then though and didnt do any, think i got away with it but dont want to take that risk again. basicly want as much muscle gain as possible but not loose much when coming off

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

just done 3 cycles before did a sus250 and deca before at 2ml each a week and got good gains but it only lasted me a month i didnt know much in the way of pct then though and didnt do any, think i got away with it but dont want to take that risk again. basicly want as much muscle gain as possible but not loose much when coming off

If you wanna gain and keep mass then I would prepare to run a cycle quite a bit longer than 10 weeks. Maintaining muscle you gain from gear is hard to maintain once you come off after only 10 weeks no matter how good your diet and training are.

Originally Posted by ROID

If you wanna gain and keep mass then I would prepare to run a cycle quite a bit longer than 10 weeks. Maintaining muscle you gain from gear is hard to maintain once you come off after only 10 weeks no matter how good your diet and training are.

how long would you recomend to run it for then??

10 wks at 600mg a wk, if your talking deca. and those 10ml vials are 9ml vials at best the cheap bastards.

2. 22
3. 6ft 203 pounds 10% bodyfat
4. 5 years of consistent training
5. Oxandrolone 40mgs per day 5 week cycle
6. Training routine;

Monday: chest and triceps. Sprint training.
Tuesday: shoulders. Sprint training
Wednesday: Rest.
Thursday: Legs. Sprint training
Friday: Rest.
Saturday: Sprint training.
Sunday: Back and Biceps
Diet; 1 shake 60gs oats when I wake up
dextrose, maltose, caffeine creatine, taurine, arginine, directly before and after training. A shake 20mins after training
Then I eat every 2 hours over my 12 hour shift at work, usually 130g of tuna and then 27g of oats mixed with a little protein shake, or a meal with the equivalent nutritional values in terms of protein and carbohydrate. My last meal of the day is 6 egg whites 3yolks and amino acid drink an ZMA’s. I also eat about 9 fruit and veg as an when through the day.
I’ve been giving the gear some serious thought for about 3 years now, doing a fare amount of research on the net. Although I did have a brief cycle on oxandrolone I was naive and was not training correctly to make the most of it. I am in good shape at the minute with good proportions but want to stack on 20lbs of lean muscle.
My proposed cycle is sustanon 250, for 8 weeks ( will this be long enough? I have noticed some run longer because they say it doesn’t really kick in until week4) at 500mg a week split into two injections one on the Monday and the other on the Thursday. However since I have been researching about sustanon (as its what I have decided I want to take) I have seen a lot of different PCT recommendations, I am able to get hold of both nova and clomid but have been reading about the role of HCG, some people seem to think it is essentail where as others just run nova or clomid. Its basically the PCT which I am unsure about i.e What? When? ,in What doeses?, how long after the last injection should PCT start? And continue for? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by unclem

10 wks at 600mg a wk, if your talking deca. and those 10ml vials are 9ml vials at best the cheap bastards.

If you recomend deca at 600 that would mean i would need to be running sus at like 750? is that not a bit high? i was thinking of doing 500 sus and 300 deca? do you think these dosages are too low?

Originally Posted by burnsyboy

If you recomend deca at 600 that would mean i would need to be running sus at like 750? is that not a bit high? i was thinking of doing 500 sus and 300 deca? do you think these dosages are too low?

is this your first cycle? if not then run sus 250mg mon and then sus 250 thurs then on mon start the deca at 600mg 1 time a wk. no those are within normal gain ranges for you. but if its your first cycle then do your sus the same way and do deca 400mg on mon 1 time a wk. also have your clomid and hcg and nolva on hand for your pct. clomid after 10 weeks cycle is 100mg days 3-5 and 50mg the rest of the 2-3 wks. hcg just get 5,000ius and a 10cc vial empty from a vial store its got to be sealed sterile vial just get that and bacteriostatic water 30ml and take your 5,000 amp and fill it with 1cc of bac h2oto your 1 amp dry powder amp and put that in the 10cc vial and add 4ccs more to give u 5ccs in the 10ml vial and your doses could run as follows 1,500 2xs wk mon- thurs then the next wk 500ius 2xs that wk same days then wk 3 do 500ius the same as wk 2 then your done if you need the nolva run 20/20/20 and so on for 2 wks if you have estrogen side effects. look up the details on google if you dont understand. after you mix the hcg then keep it in refridge until empty. but dont make it until you need it as i think hcg is only good once mixed for 60-90 days i think. maybe someone can verify that. good luck