Thread: Sustanon/EQ/Var Cycle input needed

Thank you in advance for you input.

30 year old male, training since I was 15 and quite seriously since I was 17. I am currently at 216 lbs, 5’ 11” and probably around 15% body fat. I train very intensely twice a day (cardio and weights separate) and my diet is spot on.

Purpose of cycle: To gain lean body mass. Perhaps add 10lbs and drop a significant amount of fat. Protein is high, fat is moderate and carbs are low – overall diet is spot on and sodium intake is low.

Cycle History (no need to poke fun, some classic newbie mistakes)
• At 17 ran what I think was methyltest and greatly improved my physique
• At 18 ran 5 weeks of sten (pathetic), but increased strength further and ended at a flat bench 1 rep max of 365 lbs.
• At 25, ran first real cycle which was still paltry. Consisted of sustanon at 500mg/week for 8 weeks, winny tabs at 50mg a day for 4 weeks and some deca for joint lube. Gained 20+ lbs of lean muscle and was in the best shape of my life. Added a few inches on my arms and strength went through the roof.

Cycle to date:
Had taken off 4 years (periodic training but not dedication), 4 months ago I got back into a solid routine. Started jogging and dropped 20 lbs, after a few months I started a cycle with 400mg sustanon and 400mg eq. I know these are low doses, but I wanted to see what results I would get before bumping it up. Now, i’m on week 5 and have dropped a few inches on my waist and increased strength and the size of my muscles all over (maybe 1” on my arms so far while dropping bodyfat). I’ve actually improved my physique so much (more vascular, abs are coming out and my strength is up across all lifts) that I am wondering if its due to my training, diet and rest more so than the sust/eq considering thes dosages.

What I am thinking for the rest of it:
Now, I have quite a bit of sustanon and am thinking of going up to 525mg/week and running it a total of 16 weeks (10 weeks and a few days beyond where I am now). The EQ is going to run out at 10 weeks and I honestly am not sure if I makes sense to get more to run it for the entire 16 weeks with the sustanon. What does everyone think?

Also, I have 3000 mg of var (10mg x 300 tabs). I am trying to decide whether or not I should run it at 40 for 9 weeks or 60 for 6. I have spent days reviewing old posts and some seem to say 60 is the sweet spot while others say real var should do the job at 40mg and 80mg is more than is necessary unless it is cheap UG product. Mine is Omega (mods please delete name if that violates any rules). Also, are there any specific liver support products that you guys recommend? I’m thinking Liv52.

PCT
I have also been pinning 250 of hcg twice weekly and running .5 adex eod (prone to gyno). As I said, in the first 5 weeks, things have gone so well. Is upping the dosage a bad idea if I am making gains at this level and simply want to help preserve mass and add maybe 10 lbs or lean body mass over 16 weeks. In the past, I have blown up with low dosages, so I plan on continuing cardio 7 days a week, keeping sodium low and training extremely intensely (a lot of drop sets and double and triple sets).

Since I have been running HCG and will run it to the end of the 16 weeks, pct will consist of clomid (50mg for 30 days), nolva (40mg for a week and 20 for 3 additional weeks). I also plan on getting alpha sustain and hcgenerate. May run some clen as well at that time.

Again, thank you in advance. I understand I’ve asked quite a few questions and have spent quite a bit of time researching them before posting.

Yes, the half life of the ester is longer than that of the esters in sustanon. I'm planning on stopping it at the end of 10 weeks. Unless, I am seeing great results and get more, in which case I will run it up to 3 weeks pre PCT.

Thanks again