Thread: Advise for first cycle

Edit due to double post.

Originally Posted by fredlabrute

500mg test E and 400mg Eq wk1-12
That was exactly what i did for first cycle,with excellent results...
You have proviron as an Ai,nolva in case of gyno,you could add some HCG to keep the big boys working...
That's a simple and yet very effective first cycle!

It looks as though proviron was used during the 80's as there were no other alternatives and although it works for some it seems as though it's not a good drug to rely on especially if one is prone to getting gyno ( which I may be).

I think I'll run a cycle similar to the above but make sure I use a reputable AI during my cycle.

BHF

Don't mean to thread hijack but I'm in Aus too.

Captain and BTB

Who do you order Adex and Nolva with?

Can you get that sh it through customs?

Appreciate any info PM me if you can my post count is too low to PM you guys

Cheers

i would not concern yourself with this^^^ (post #30)

seems entirely unnecessary. you are sticking a very sharp bit of metal into yourself one way or another... i've heard of people holding their vial in their fist for a minute before jab and i've seen people putting vials under warm taps or hand driers, personally this is a waste of time for me.

Keep it simple the less your pins come into contact with the open air the more sterile they will be.

ROAST

if u got 23guage pin u wont need to heat it, i never have anyway. i really hope u decided against wasting the eq like that. imo i think u should extend ur cycle length and if its ur first time maybe think about using test e if u can get it just so u don't have so many pins, and u could even front load with prop so u know what it feels like for next time. my first cycle was 14 weeks on test e and eq. i front loaded with prop and loved it.

Originally Posted by roastchicken

i would not concern yourself with this^^^ (post #30)

seems entirely unnecessary. you are sticking a very sharp bit of metal into yourself one way or another... i've heard of people holding their vial in their fist for a minute before jab and i've seen people putting vials under warm taps or hand driers, personally this is a waste of time for me.

Keep it simple the less your pins come into contact with the open air the more sterile they will be.

ROAST

Due to curiosity I tested the procedure using olive oil to put into practice what I'd learned and I found that it was very difficult to push though the syringe. Does the juice flow though the syringe fairly easy or would it be similar in texture. It is winter here and the oil was quite cold but you would know all about the cold being in the UK.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

Due to curiosity I tested the procedure using olive oil to put into practice what I'd learned and I found that it was very difficult to push though the syringe. Does the juice flow though the syringe fairly easy or would it be similar in texture. It is winter here and the oil was quite cold but you would know all about the cold being in the UK.

Yes, Gear is usually quite viscous unless you have water based injectables. I can remember being very surprised at how stiff pinning was the first time i did it, i had a preconception about just jamming down the plunger but in reality pinning should be a slow carefull process anyway.

ROAST

If I choose to run a 12 week Test/ Eq Cycle, front load with prop and switch to Test E later what would be the recommended dosage?

I have proviron and armidex on hand and are able to use nolva (and maybe clomid) for PCT

Any good advice would be appreciated?

(Edit) I realise a Test E/Eq cycle was recommended to me but not sure whether the prop should be dosed at the same amount. Also I'm unsure as to how I would go about a smooth transition switching from prop to Test E

Cheers

When i used prop to kick i ran the two compounds simultaneously ,for example 1-4 prop@ 100mg eod and test e @600mg 2xweek.

are you thinking of doing something like this or running the prop for longer then switching to Enth? because their isn't much point in doing that.

Originally Posted by roastchicken

When i used prop to kick i ran the two compounds simultaneously ,for example 1-4 prop@ 100mg eod and test e @600mg 2xweek.

are you thinking of doing something like this or running the prop for longer then switching to Enth? because their isn't much point in doing that.

I wanted to start the prop/ eq now while I wait for my Test E to arrive which won't be long . Also want to make sure my stuff is legit before handing over more cash too ( not that I have any doubts but just to make sure)

What options do I have?

just wait for the test bud. something tells me your gonna do the shit anyway

If u wanna front load u have to run the test e and prop together. The reason behind front loading is to get the test working quicker and to see results quicker. if u were to start the prop on its own then switch it over ur test levels will crash for 4 weeks while u wait for the test e to start to work. what i recomend is wait for the test e and run something like this.

1-4 test prop @100mg-150mgs(ur choice) eod
1-12 eq @600mgs per week. 300mgs mon 300mgs thurs
1-14 test e 600mgs per week. 300mgs mon 300mgs thurs

its a good cycle, u'll be happy with the gains. what ever u choose to do, good luck