Thread: anabolics

There is so much gear out there for different purposes. If your wanting to run real gear (injectables) the best thing to do is a test e solo cycle, or test e/dbol cycle for first time.

Mdrol is very strong and not a good choice for a first run with designer steroids, for many reasons. I agree that Test is a good injectible for a first run. I would run that alone if you are going to try gear for the first time. Twenty two is pretty young-I think you would be well advised to wait until at least 25. Gaining as much as possible naturally first will give you the best long-term results.

i ran m-drol but long time ago cant remember the results. i just got 2 bottles yesterday and goona use them as my oral eventually. but like mdr said build as much until your 25 but you not going to listen, so, due the 500mg a wk test e or test cyp. good luck brother.

about who has the best clen on this board its mex. hes got hg from a hg manufacturer rayer and its 20mcg at a reasonable cost for 200ct tabs. its what lex luger got caught with. no better. not plugging him as i dont want to sound like his mascot but i give credit where its do. its called oxyflux. the apex might be underdosed. but the other stuff works awesome. could care less if you buy it. just my opinion on it.

Mdrol isnt rubbish in the slightest. It is a very strong PH. I wouldnt run it again without a good test base. No wait....I wouldnt run it again at all, it really fucked me up for a long time.

wat did it do? i ran it before with no problems i just cant remember the results as it was when it first hit the open market. remind jmm, i do drol with no problems at my max 250mg ed for 5 wks. but iam getting older so 150-200 is fine. what did it do to you jm?

I had a bad case of floppy dick for WEEKS after I came off of it. And after my nuts came back from being the size of almonds, the left one never came back all the way.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Mdrol isnt rubbish in the slightest. It is a very strong PH. I wouldnt run it again without a good test base. No wait....I wouldnt run it again at all, it really fucked me up for a long time.

I have heard many many times people feeling like shit from this product, everyone says Mdrol is a clone of Superdrol and it is, BUT! it is not the correct clone! it lacks the alpha isomer.

The real Superdrol clone is Superdrone-lv, it is exactly the same, with the alpha isomer.

With CEM products (Mdrol) some tests were done I belive and batches were found to be dirty, and some under dosed etc. I would not use Mdrol by CEL, I would use other products, but not Mdrol after its shady light.

You might want to give Superdrone a go champ, many people like it over Mdrol.

Just run it with a Test base bro and you should be fine. I just wasnt prepared for how hard it was going to shut me down.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Just run it with a Test base bro and you should be fine. I just wasnt prepared for how hard it was going to shut me down.

i just tried to find the structure all i get is the " layout form " but the bunk batches that i just read they used iforce m-drol. i got cell, fuck i cant remember and there at my house in wny, fuck. oh iam not going to throw it out. maybe if i jack up the test high enough and i do 40mg ed ill see results, because my liver panel is very low its good. thanx jm thats all i can do. its not like i spent a fortune or nothing. lol. we see.

would it make any diffrence if i ran cycle assist with the cycle or not? would it realy mess me up that bad if i take it at 22? the think im finding is that i can increase my strengh from week to week but i cant get any bigger, what i was thinking was m-drol with cycle assist and milk thistle, and nolvadex for pct,? i appreciate your comments guys,

would test e be better to run first rather than a oral ph?

Chaz, please dont take this the wrong way, but if you arent growing, unless you are a beast who has reached his genetic potential and has been lifting for years, and you arent gaining any weight, then AAS wont help you. It is a diet issue. AAS do not add size magically, they work through protein synthesis, and you need calories and protein to make them work.

I am not trying to talk you out of your cycle, or even telling you to wait. I didnt wait to start mine, just like most of the hypocrites (not everyone) that will tell you to wait. But I DID learn to eat/train first. You should still be making gains with or without AAS.

That said, in my opinion, an oral should not be taken without a test base. Any test will do, but Test E or Test C are the easiest choices for a first timer.

thanks jmorrison, ill try and tweek my diet first and see how that goes, when the time comes that im looking to take them, where would be the best place to buy from, as going through websites and forums, looks like alot gets ripped off, by paying money and not recieving nothing in return. im in the uk so they would need to get shipped, thanks

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Mdrol isnt rubbish in the slightest. It is a very strong PH. I wouldnt run it again without a good test base. No wait....I wouldnt run it again at all, it really fucked me up for a long time.

same here. I got liver pains from that garbage and man tits. Took me forever to get the gyno under control.

to the OP; I'd run a basic test enth 500mg a week, at 250mg a shot x2.
Now that we've established your cycle, what does your training look like? Your goals? Plans on competition? How fat are you? Post your diet exactly as the day unfolds.

Need to lose about 10lbs what steroids are good for fat burning?

my daily diet is, breakfast 7am- 5 full eggs 2 wholemeal toats, pint of milk,coffee, bowl of oats, - 10am break - chicken breast, brown rice with dressing, 12pm lunch - 2 fish with cous cous and salad,pint of milk,- 3pm break,- chicken breast with brown rice and dressing, 5pm - protien shake,banana,slice of wholemeal toast, 6pm - workout- 8 pm protiene shake straight after, 5 eggs 2 wholemeal toast glass of milk - 10pm bed .......i train pulling muscles then pushing muscles each other day, due to fitting time into the gym after work, i do a bit of power liffting aswell at the gym, my goals are just to get bulkier without much bodyfat, at the moment im about 15% bf, was trying to step up the cardio a bit but was finding it difficult to find the energy to run and lift on the same day.

my training- mon-wed- bench press 5 sets 8-10 reps, flys- 6 sets 8-10 reps, -inclines 5 sets, 6-8 reps, 50 pushups,./ triseps extentions- 15sets - 8-10 reps, 4 sets dips as much as i can do. shoulders./ 6 sets milatery press, 6-8reps,

friday- deadlifting, 6 reps at 100kg ,120kg,140kg,160,200, 1 rep at 220kg 240kg and 260kg
dumbell shrugs- 6 sets 8-10 reps
t bar rows- 6 sets 8-10 reps

tues/thurs, latpulldowns 8 sets- 8-10reps
bent over rows 8 sets- 8-10reps
biesep barbell curls 5 sets 8-10 reps, dumbell twist, 5 sets 8-10reps
preacher curls, 5 sets 8-10reps

sunday- deadlift but not so heavy, norm 8 sets 10 reps
latpull downs, 5sets 8-10 reps
lat rows 5 sets 8-10 reps
bieseps agian same as tue and thur,
t bar rows agian

sat, working but do alot of pressups throut the day,
i do about 400 situps a night, going to try and fit sqauting in there again somewhere, i used to do it on a monday at my old gym, as there was allways spotters, might go back, as my new gym got shit for legs apart from extentions,

Originally Posted by chriskoz31

Need to lose about 10lbs what steroids are good for fat burning?

a better diet perhaps...this request shows me you dont really understand how to diet? Why ten pounds? How do you really know you're 10lbs overweight? How do you know it isnt more or less?

Originally Posted by chaz4188

my daily diet is, breakfast 7am- 5 full eggs 2 wholemeal toats, pint of milk,coffee, bowl of oats, - 10am break - chicken breast, brown rice with dressing, 12pm lunch - 2 fish with cous cous and salad,pint of milk,- 3pm break,- chicken breast with brown rice and dressing, 5pm - protien shake,banana,slice of wholemeal toast, 6pm - workout- 8 pm protiene shake straight after, 5 eggs 2 wholemeal toast glass of milk - 10pm bed .......i train pulling muscles then pushing muscles each other day, due to fitting time into the gym after work, i do a bit of power liffting aswell at the gym, my goals are just to get bulkier without much bodyfat, at the moment im about 15% bf, was trying to step up the cardio a bit but was finding it difficult to find the energy to run and lift on the same day.

You're overeating.

Originally Posted by chaz4188

my training- mon-wed- bench press 5 sets 8-10 reps, flys- 6 sets 8-10 reps, -inclines 5 sets, 6-8 reps, 50 pushups,./ triseps extentions- 15sets - 8-10 reps, 4 sets dips as much as i can do. shoulders./ 6 sets milatery press, 6-8reps,

friday- deadlifting, 6 reps at 100kg ,120kg,140kg,160,200, 1 rep at 220kg 240kg and 260kg
dumbell shrugs- 6 sets 8-10 reps
t bar rows- 6 sets 8-10 reps

tues/thurs, latpulldowns 8 sets- 8-10reps
bent over rows 8 sets- 8-10reps
biesep barbell curls 5 sets 8-10 reps, dumbell twist, 5 sets 8-10reps
preacher curls, 5 sets 8-10reps

sunday- deadlift but not so heavy, norm 8 sets 10 reps
latpull downs, 5sets 8-10 reps
lat rows 5 sets 8-10 reps
bieseps agian same as tue and thur,
t bar rows agian

sat, working but do alot of pressups throut the day,
i do about 400 situps a night, going to try and fit sqauting in there again somewhere, i used to do it on a monday at my old gym, as there was allways spotters, might go back, as my new gym got shit for legs apart from extentions,

Your routine sucks.
Depending on your goals, you need to train for that goal. You're not going anywhere with this routine. May I ask how you came to this routine?

Chaz, stay off the anabolic wagon for a lil bit and listen to the Juggs. He knows his shit, has a nice round head, really soft hands, and a winning smile. What more do you need?

Plus....hes the Juggernaut bitch.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Chaz, stay off the anabolic wagon for a lil bit and listen to the Juggs. He knows his shit, has a nice round head, really soft hands, and a winning smile. What more do you need?

Plus....hes the Juggernaut bitch.

Trust me, you have plenty to learn before hitting AAS. Stay off it for another 3 years. Develop another routine, or as I like to pimp Baby Got Back (my favorite routine), and for fucks sake drop the weight but know how to eat if you want to get lean. And also, stay away from PHs. Most are shit anyway, and the ones that do actually work cause more harm than good in some cases (mdrol).

I think I scared chaz away.

Originally Posted by chriskoz31

Need to lose about 10lbs what steroids are good for fat burning?

It wasn't the OP that wanted to lose weight...

Originally Posted by lifthvy

It wasn't the OP that wanted to lose weight...

and I answered the question. What's your point?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Trust me, you have plenty to learn before hitting AAS. Stay off it for another 3 years. Develop another routine, or as I like to pimp Baby Got Back (my favorite routine), and for fucks sake drop the weight but know how to eat if you want to get lean. And also, stay away from PHs. Most are shit anyway, and the ones that do actually work cause more harm than good in some cases (mdrol).

oooo...sorry bro, thought you answered here ^ I missed one..

at least jugger tells it the way it is lol.