Thread: 1st timer help please

Why do you fellows still use stone as a measurement ? Do a lot of countries still us stone to signify weight ?

Best thing to do is to start reading, there is just too much information you need to know before you start and it would take a whole day for someone to type it.

Most are gonna tell you to drop Tren E and winny.
The most common first cycle seems to be similar to this:

weeks 1-12 Test E, test cyp ~ 500mg EW
" " Deca or EQ ~400mg ew
to get some faster results add dbol for the first 4 or 5 weeks @ around 25mg ED

Prices are gonna very with supplier so there is no need in asking.

It gets old repeating things but you just need set aside some time and read a little every day for a couple of months. It isn't going to kill you if you jump into a cycle blind but if you educate yourself just a little you will achieve better results.

The way you asked your questions it seems you just want everyone to do everything for you except physically inject the gear.

Many other compounds out there to concider before you go down the route of useing more than one. You will not know which compound gives you any unwanted sides if you jump in with all the above. As ROID said do alot of reading and if you still are adamante to use aas then start with something like a simple test cycle as you will get good results. A standard nolva PCT would suffice.
Good luck and read everything you can and make sure training and diet are good as i have learnt the hard way that they are everything and steroids of any kind wont do what you want without the training,diet and rest. JMO.

Originally Posted by walton

hi am 22 5ft 10 and about 13 n half stone started on 11 stone about year ago and been on phd gain and just eating a good diet but the time has come i want to use steriods my mate said this to me for a cource

Testosterone enanthate and trenbolone enanthate then. with possibly winstrol tabs stacked with it too.

A 10 week cycle with 4 vials of injectable oil and a tub of tablets will be around the £240 mark. with it id expect u to lean out a bit and add about a stone of muscle and keep most of it.


is this a good price? and good? i dont really wanna bulk out massively and what pct shall i do thank you for reading

You're too young, you haven't even really scratched the surface yet. Please refrain from using any AAS. You obviously have very little knowledge of the compounds you're discussing here.