Thread: What do you think about this?

Originally Posted by underscore

Right now I'm only able to get my hands on Clomid and test-c. Is it worth trying to setup a cycle with that only or should I just try to find an AI/HGC?

I understand that obviously it would be better for get the other items, but worst case if I can't should I even bother or will it be more harmful than good?

Thanks

You just answered your own question.

What's your age? How many years training? Goals? Diet?

Mg's and pinning

If you're trying to get an answer for this thread you started my answer is the exact same.

It all depends on what kind of cycle you run. Ie: what substances are used, their esters, ect.

There are many cycles you can set up that Clo+Nolva will be perfectly fine for.

For test C only, Clomid would work fine. But obviously, you would have to be careful about running into estrogen related sides. HcG isnt totally necessary for a test only cycle, but it obviously wouldnt hurt either.

Thanks for your answers. This is my homework and thanks for providing insight.

I'm 35, I've trained for most of my life as I'm a competitive athlete that would like to move up a weight class.

This will be my first cycle and I'm here to educate myself. I've read the newbie threads and I'm working my questions out before I ever get or try anything.

If this is a first cycle for test-c and clomid only for 10 weeks at 500mg test-c a week, how would you recommend the cycle and PCT to go with only those two items?

I was thinking 100/100/100/50 for pct, but is that too much if I'm only taking test-c? Again, if it's too harmful than good to run it without AI let me know and for estro related sides like gyno, would taking clomid mid cycle work for that instead of nolva? Should I take clomid mid cycle anyways since I'm not running anything else or only run it for pct?

Thanks again

just run test cyp at 500mg wk and start your clomid for your pct. dont use clomid for mid cycle. use after. but u can use hcg the whole 10-12 wks your on test cyp. 250ius 2xs wk mon - thurs. then just keep nolva on hand for gyno or other estrogen related sides. if your going to a show, u should talk to thunder or sassy or jugger or built, curt just to name a few as iam just learning the diet part of it but i have a pro ifbb teaching me. but thunder gave me better advice on certain things and hes very, very knowledgeable. so just listen. grab any one of these people and ask how to put yourself together. good luck and keep your mouth shut and ears open if they give you advice they know wat there doing all of them. good luck and no disrespect but they can get you along way.

Originally Posted by underscore

Thanks for your answers. This is my homework and thanks for providing insight.

I'm 35, I've trained for most of my life as I'm a competitive athlete that would like to move up a weight class.

This will be my first cycle and I'm here to educate myself. I've read the newbie threads and I'm working my questions out before I ever get or try anything.

If this is a first cycle for test-c and clomid only for 10 weeks at 500mg test-c a week, how would you recommend the cycle and PCT to go with only those two items?

I was thinking 100/100/100/50 for pct, but is that too much if I'm only taking test-c? Again, if it's too harmful than good to run it without AI let me know and for estro related sides like gyno, would taking clomid mid cycle work for that instead of nolva? Should I take clomid mid cycle anyways since I'm not running anything else or only run it for pct?

Thanks again

Sorry, didn't mean to be a dick, but...........here's what I would do for a first cycle.

1-10 750mg Test E OR C doesn't matter
1-4 40mg Dbol
1-10 500ius HCG
11 - 1000ius HCG EOD for 10 days
12-15 50mg clomid - you can front load the first week at 100mg if you want
1-15 - 25mg Aromasin ED - Could be used EOD or E3D during PCT

That is all you need.

My theory is you only get one "first cycle" and knowing what I do I wish I would have done this type of cycle. A lot of people will tell you that you might/ might not need an A/I while on etc. etc. but why WAIT for a problem to arise? If you use preventative maintenance you won't have any problems.

Thanks for the answer, if I had access to all of that, my cycle would be different. However my initial post was stating that if I could only get these two would it be worth it? Risk vs growth.

At the end of the day its my judgment call but this forum could shed some light on test-c and clomid only.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by underscore

Thanks for the answer, if I had access to all of that, my cycle would be different. However my initial post was stating that if I could only get these two would it be worth it? Risk vs growth.

At the end of the day its my judgment call but this forum could shed some light on test-c and clomid only.

Thanks!

That's just what I would do, you can choose to do what ever you want. I just know if I were to do it over again, I would have waited and then hit it hard with a wrecking ball.

you know you can get clomid nolva and ai's from cemproducts, they are the board sponsor.