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    HGH During PCT and into next cycle - fatloss?

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    I am on week 8 of a sustanon/eq cycle and plan on running it for 12 weeks. I have been running HCG throughout (2x weekly) and will run clomid and novla during PCT.

    I have never run HGH before, my cycle experience includes a few cycles over the past 15 years. I am 30 now and weight 227 at 6'0". I'd guess my bodyfat is around 14%, but I need to get it measured. I'm hoping the HGH will help cut some fat and help me maintain what I have gained during this cycle. I will contine to eat a clean diet and train hard.

    Question - does it make sense to start HGH during PCT and run it for 5 months at 4iu/day. I'm thinking of starting it during PCt and then running it for 3 months before starting my next cycle (which will be lean mass - most likely prop/tren, but yet to be finalized). What I really want to know is whether or not the HGH will help keep gains and at 4ius a day, will it either help increase LBM during the months before my next cycle or/and lower bodyfat. As mentioned, I will be training hard and keeping my diet in check. I know HGH is not a miracle substance, but I have heard some positive reviews regarding bodyfat loss and LBM when cominbed with AAS.

    Any input is welcome (including critisisms or critiques). Thank you all in advance.

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    You need to read more about gh. Read all the bad crap that happens to people when they are taking gh. Just be careful bro. If you like to know more, read up on past post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khoiktran View Post
    You need to read more about gh. Read all the bad crap that happens to people when they are taking gh. Just be careful bro. If you like to know more, read up on past post.
    Can you explain? I would like to hear your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickshthouse79 View Post
    Bros,

    I am on week 8 of a sustanon/eq cycle and plan on running it for 12 weeks. I have been running HCG throughout (2x weekly) and will run clomid and novla during PCT.

    I have never run HGH before, my cycle experience includes a few cycles over the past 15 years. I am 30 now and weight 227 at 6'0". I'd guess my bodyfat is around 14%, but I need to get it measured. I'm hoping the HGH will help cut some fat and help me maintain what I have gained during this cycle. I will contine to eat a clean diet and train hard.

    Question - does it make sense to start HGH during PCT and run it for 5 months at 4iu/day. I'm thinking of starting it during PCt and then running it for 3 months before starting my next cycle (which will be lean mass - most likely prop/tren, but yet to be finalized). What I really want to know is whether or not the HGH will help keep gains and at 4ius a day, will it either help increase LBM during the months before my next cycle or/and lower bodyfat. As mentioned, I will be training hard and keeping my diet in check. I know HGH is not a miracle substance, but I have heard some positive reviews regarding bodyfat loss and LBM when cominbed with AAS.

    Any input is welcome (including critisisms or critiques). Thank you all in advance.
    2ius first thing in the AM and another 2iu's early afternoon ED. Insulin would also help A LOT! 5 months is a perfect start, don't run it any less.

    GH is a miracle drug IF you use it long enough and are patient enough.

    GH and insulin POST CYCLE IS IDEAL for the advanced user, although most advance users just run TRT anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickshthouse79 View Post
    Bros,

    I have never run HGH before, my cycle experience includes a few cycles over the past 15 years. I am 30 now and weight 227 at 6'0".
    You started taking shit when you were 15 years old? WTF!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja44 View Post
    You started taking shit when you were 15 years old? WTF!!!
    That was what I was about to ask. Yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khoiktran View Post
    You need to read more about gh. Read all the bad crap that happens to people when they are taking gh. Just be careful bro. If you like to know more, read up on past post.
    What's the negative regarding HGH? I can see a few possible dangers since the OP is only 30, but have never read any real "bad crap" about HGH, and I've done a great deal of reading.

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    When I was 16 or 17, I took some orals. To this day, I don't know what they were but the dose was very low. I'm assuming it was low enough to not shut me down and had a psychological impact. My lifts went up considerably, but I don't know if it was real. I'm thinking it may have been methyltest, but don't know.

    After that, I took some Sten, too low of a dose to do much, but again, I think the dose was low and the duration was short enough to not shut me down.

    The first real cycle was not until I was older (24-25 years old). So, if you don't count the two laughable cycles when I was young (and some may not), then I have done 2 and am on my 3rd now at 30 years old. I have always been very conservative on the doses. Right now, I am only taking 525 of sust and 400 of eq a week for 12 weeks.

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    Also, I have read quite a bit about HGH, but have never used it. The reviews seem split, some say that it can illicit a fat loss effect in 4 weeks when others say only to run it if you commit for 5+ months. Some say it adds LBM and some research suggests that it is growth of internal organs. I'd like to hear some opinions of those that have used it first hand and have had experience with someone in their late 20s to early 30s. In a nutshell, it is worth the expense at my age and will it help or hinder if taken during PCT and into my next cycle or should I just want and run it with the front end of my next cycle?

    Again, thank you very much. As other said, I would like to hear about the "bad crap that happens to people from it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by brickshthouse79 View Post
    Also, I have read quite a bit about HGH, but have never used it. The reviews seem split, some say that it can illicit a fat loss effect in 4 weeks when others say only to run it if you commit for 5+ months. Some say it adds LBM and some research suggests that it is growth of internal organs. I'd like to hear some opinions of those that have used it first hand and have had experience with someone in their late 20s to early 30s. In a nutshell, it is worth the expense at my age and will it help or hinder if taken during PCT and into my next cycle or should I just want and run it with the front end of my next cycle?

    Again, thank you very much. As other said, I would like to hear about the "bad crap that happens to people from it."
    The experts here will have to comment on the wisdom of a 30-year old using HGH. But can tell you that fat loss is small and steady at injection sites, there is no doubt about this (in my experience) because you can see a concavity of missing fat if you pin too often in the same general area. So I've spread it around over the six months I've been doing 4IUs ED. Experts would advise, I suspect, that a younger person do it every other day, or a take a couple of days off weekly to insure anterior pituitary glad not shutting down. The visible benefits are not quickly manifested, so you might want to take in financial considerations. At $4 to $10 per IU -- or much more if you buy it through a US pharmacy -- it is not inexpensive.

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    I have not read of anterior pituitary shut down from HGH. I see no reason to pin EOD unless you're trying to save money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    I have not read of anterior pituitary shut down from HGH. I see no reason to pin EOD unless you're trying to save money.

    If you're not using it for fat loss, EOD is the best way to use it. It has nothing to do with saving money either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    If you're not using it for fat loss, EOD is the best way to use it. It has nothing to do with saving money either.
    I read a couple of studies where using HgH EOD was actually more effective, which seems counter intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    I read a couple of studies where using HgH EOD was actually more effective, which seems counter intuitive.
    Correct.

    My understanding is the body is more sensitive to the EOD method for bulking at a higher dose, cutting you get better results with a smaller dose twice ED and for maintence a low dose ED.

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