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    Hey everyone! Just a few unanswereds. First if you were to take HCG during a 15 week TestE only cycle would you take it during the beginning or in the middle and would 1500 of HCG a week be enough? Second, During the PCT would you run clomid, HCG, antiE, all at the same time?
    By the way thanks for all the help everyone, but there is so much stuff you read that counters each other just trying to clear some stuff up thanks. OH I am 6ft, 278, about 15%body fat, 37yo been in the iron jungle since 1987 on and off. just trying to put some lean mass then shred. I have a strong diet since I am a chef eating every three hours isnt a problem(semi Healthy). Have to always eat a little goodness for definition

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    My Opinion

    Firstly I dont know how much test you have been or plan to do for the 15 weeks. But assuming you keep it resonable you'r HCG could be 250iu's 2x wkly throughout your cycle. You can adjust it accordingly on the fly so to speak if you need to. This amount works fine for me though. You could start your HCG in the second week. Run your ai from day one and continue through PCT. DO NOT run HCG in PCT. The two week time frame you have while your esters clear are ok but not in PCT. Clomid is what most guys use for PCT. Some add nolvadex aswell but it's really not needed.Also I dont know if you know this or not but anything after eight weeks usually doesnt give any additional gains unless you up the dose or add another compound. 15's a bit long for cyp so I dont know your reasoning behind this strategy. Ideally you want to use as little ai as will get the job done AND use as little HCG as will keep the balls from atrophy. Some guys go way overboard on the ai usage. If you have any other questions just ask and myself or someone will be glad to assist.

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    Holy shit try doing a bit of research first. Here I'll help you get started:

    How To Prepare and Dose HCG

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    1500/week of Hcg is too much. 500/week is where you will need to be at. dont run HcG in PCT, run it on cycle and use a low dose of your anti E while on both Hcg and Test to combat the estrogenic sides.


    Nolva+Clomid for PCT will be fine for a test only cycle.


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    Cool

    hey thanks for the feedback. Also thanks for the articles it seems everytime i read a bunch of stuff it is countered such as nolvadex. Some people say use it during ur cycle plus continue it into the pct until three weeks after all esters are gone. Some say that nolvadex is the anti-christ lol i liked it better in the 90s there were like 4 choices now there is insulin, and hgh. Like they say "If i knew then what i know now".I appreciate all the shared knowledge you guys are great.

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    well i was gonna do 250mg weeks1-5, 500mg weeks6-10, then either up it to 750mg weeks11-15, if I was feeling as great as i should. just trying to feel out how the T from a different lab then I am use to. Then I will add the party favors. Thanx again

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    750 is a little high in my opinion, and 250 is kinda low. Also I would'nt run test longer than 15 weeks. Just my opinion! ^_^ Personally I would stop at 12 weeks.

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    Based on your original questions, I am going to assume this is your first cycle. With that said, run Test Cyp at 500mg per week (250mg twice per week) for 10 weeks. Run Adex at .5mg or Aromasin at 12.5mg ED from day 1. Start HCG at 250iu's twice per week starting in week two and 2 weeks past your last Cyp shot. Wait 2 days and run your PCT for 3-4 weeks. There is no need to add in "party favors" for a first cycle. Mixing to many things on a first cycle could do more harm than good since you wont know which compound may be the cause of a problem.

    JMO for a first cycle.

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    Very sound advise Aja

    Good looking out for the OP. What you described would be very safe for most anyone.

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    I appreciate all the feedback, thats why i love iron magazine. You ask a question and threfore it shall be answered. Thanks everyone keep you posted on how it all works out.

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