Thread: D-bol & ot cycle

is you mean OT as in oral T-bol then, I would say do not use two orals at once bro.

If this is your first cycle and your not going to use injectable's then 50mg ot Dbol a day for upto but no longer than 8 weeks is the normal that I have seen and seen suggested for first cycles of an oral.

But you will have to asses yourself and if you need to stop at 4 weeks or 6 then so be it.

Be safe and read up some more brother and dont be scared to ask questions

all the best

thought that Bro.....gonna run D-BOL its been a long time since runnin the gear...Im 52 next birthday this old body just dosent grow the way it used to so im gonna take your advice man cheers from Bonnie Scotland..DOUGIE

If it's been awhile, I would suggest 40mg e/d & no longer than a 6wk cycle. Make sure you have some AIs on hand & are ready for PCT. Your body changes over time, so your reaction to the gear may be different than it was years ago. Come out of the gate slow & adjust from there. Your still 52yrs young, so you have planty of time to pace yourself.

Also I would strongly reccomend not running two orals at once. It's actually a waste of money/liver.

Flathead

THANKS ....FLATHEAD ....... ah well back to the TUNA OATS SWEET POT'S AND VEG &CHICKEN

CHEERS DOUGIE

nice work mate, at 52 you might very well be able to get scripted gear from your Doc.

What par of scotland are you from? my family background is part scot,

ot and dbol

dbol is methyl boldenone

ot is 4 chloro methyl boldenone.

the 4 chloro group lowers its androgenicity, and also prevents the compound from aromatizing.

the gains from an ot cycle will much easier to maintain than the gains from a dbol cycle.

they will be, dry, lean fat free mass gains, where as dbol will be alot of water, and bloat, along with muscle.

just really depends on your goals, and what you are looking to accomplish.

I think ot is a better suited compound for one who doesn't know much about steroids, and how to run a proper pct program.

I'd say pick one, either ot @ 50mg for 6 weeks, or dbol @ 50mg for 4 weeks.

the ot will require a much milder pct than the dbol, but always make sure you got a solid pct before you start your cycle.

People and your oral only cycles...

15 miles outside glasgow buddy

Originally Posted by hairyarsedscot

Whats the view on this guys....would these work together as a good cycle ... say...30mg D-BOL & 20mg OT...whats your views cheers .

my bad op, I realized i didn't answer your orig. question,

being that tbol is a more of a dry non aromatizing compound, and dbol a wet aromatizing compound, in this sense, the two would work together.

but at the dosage you have the ot listed at, all it would really do is displace shbg to allow more dbol to do it's work.

if that was your goal, then great.

would would I recomend instead? a dht derivative like say anavar, or even winstrol.

Or I think best would be superdrol (methyldrostanolone). you could run the dbol at 30mg e/d and the sd at 10-20mg e/d for 4 weeks, and you would literally blow up.

that would give you a test derivative stacked with a dht derivative, plus a non aromatizing compound, with an aromatizing compound.

dbol has a short half life, so the sd would allow you to keep androgen levels up more steadily.

but then, so would 20mg of ot, which is about the longest half life ur gonna get from an oral.

what is you goal with the cycle?

JBRYAND....good man...thought so . well just to get back the size ive been used to in the past buddy. I kinda thought these 2 could go together but just needed to hear it from you guys. LOOKIN AT IT THIS WAY.. thought the OT would help keep some of the good of the D-BOL. you can advise on daily dosage of these buddy cheers my freind .DOUGIE.

the one thing that's not changed in this great hobby ,ie . lifestyle is the amount of conflicting knowledge . It was the same in the past , Ive got to agree with some that one oral at a time is safer all round =age taken into consideration here. NOW do i take D-BOL as first cycle then OT ? OR ...vice versa . please give your knowledge to this old guy hahaha. cheers

If you had to go with one, it's tough, but I'd say ot would be the best option.

you could go 50-70mg for 6 weeks, safely, and still find it easy to maintain those gains, come post cycle.

dbol, we all know will make you swole.

here is another possible option if you wanted to stack.

go with dbol @ 50mg e/d stacked with 30mg of OT for the first 4 weeks.

this will give you that instant gratification of size,strength, and the low dose of tbol will be in your system, and give you stable steroid levels round the clock.

Then, for weeks 5 & 6, run the tbol at 60mg for two weeks, to help solidify those gains made from dbol.

total 6 week cycle.

this kind of cycle though will require a solid pct.

its all on wat you want to achieve. but take milk thisltle ed for your liver.

JBRYAND....ok buddy got clomid liv52 double strength milk thistli 1000mg

Originally Posted by hairyarsedscot

JBRYAND....ok buddy got clomid liv52 double strength milk thistli 1000mg

not telling you , just letting u know. plus my liver enzymes are really low for my gear intake, plus they give it to people who have hepatitis a-c and alcholics, drug addicts. and milkumose they use for tylenol overdoses, its white creamy stuff that looks like milk given via, iv. i dont know if i spelled it wright, but its close.

what..?

you dont really need any support supplements on cycle if you are a healthy adult male with no pre existing conditions.

save all that recovery/support for post cycle when your trying to recover as quickly as possible.

nothing wrong with using say liv 52 or w/e on cycle. but also nothing wrong with not using it. you'll probably feel better using supports, if that matters to you.

thanks guys ......jbryand thanks for your time buddy keep in touch buddy......where you from

I have to disagree with saying there is nothing wrong with not using Liv52 while on cycle, everyone should look after their liver and their health as much as they can.

In my book thats like saying its ok to drink and drive, sure it might only be down the road but still. Safety first.

Also you can try the Dbol brother, but if you want solid lbs made and kept, may I suggest SD, although it coems under the PH banner alot it is actually a oral steroid that is ALOT! stronger than most of the other orals, it is pretty strong stuff, so you might want to read into it a bit if you think of going that way.

if it was me and I was going to be using something out of Dbol and SD, I myself would go SD, more lbs made and kept in most cases. But for your own safety and health run Liv52 and cholesterol health while using any steroid or PH.

Even if you are a healthy male with no conditions, just using any cycle tabs or inject can mess with lipids and also liver.

all the best mate!

P.s. my family came out of Dollar in scotland.

Hey Cobber, at age 52, can't you get your hands on some testosterone cream or injectable? The people here are experts on all the other stuff, maybe it's great, but I can tell you for certain that when, at age 58, I started injecting 200ml weekly of testosterone, every part of my body started getting hard, and it's done nothing but gotten better had harder -- including the clanger under the kilt.

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that right there coming from someone in your age bracket bro is a good help for you.
I think you should also get your T levels done. I mean come on half the blokes here would love to get legit gear!

Originally Posted by Mr.BTB

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that right there coming from someone in your age bracket bro is a good help for you.
I think you should also get your T levels done. I mean come on half the blokes here would love to get legit gear!

Our friend from Oz is right. Along with Test C and Nandralone, my Doc has me on Armour thyroid and DHEA plus Human Growth Hormone. Just got my blood tests back, and my IGF (which is associated with HGH) was around 500, which is normal -- normal for a THIRTY year old guy. Using prescription Testosterone, my levels are also normal for a guy in his 30s. I feel great, which is why I urge you and anyone else over 50 to look into this.

get the pharma grade test. and stack it with ot if you can.

Originally Posted by Mr.BTB

I have to disagree with saying there is nothing wrong with not using Liv52 while on cycle, everyone should look after their liver and their health as much as they can.

The good thing about the liver is that if given time it can heal any damage.

I take supplements to hopefully counteract anything in the long run. I know if I were to run a high dose of orally I will be ok but who knows what kind of complications you could run into 25 years down the road. Just makes sense to try and take care of yourself.

Liv52 & Milk thistle have been 2 of my daily supp's for the past 2yr's...some protein can be slightly toxic to the liver when taking as much as we do..just a bit of fine tuning

Originally Posted by hairyarsedscot

what..?

got carried away lol. just use milk thistle always. just pointing out they give milk thistle to drug addicts, hep. a-c victims and cirrosis of the liver patients to help them do better. it brings down there enzymes.