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    Blood Test Question for Mods and other Pros

    Hi I posted a question in a previous thread, in which Chocolate Thunder, Ian Daniel and Uncle M were very helpful. My question was, 'Does primo influence testosterone results on blood tests?' I was concerned because, six weeks ago, I added Primo and doubled the Test C prescribed for me by my HRT Doc, and frankly didn't want him to be shocked by test results. Well, the results were shocking because my testosterone is incredibly low, not high! I need some expert insights as to why. Before I give you the results, here is what I pinned nine days prior to the blood draw: 350 ml Apex Mexgear T-Test, 100 ml prescription Deca. Seventeen and fourteen days before the blood draw, I pinned a total of 500 ml Apex Mexgear T-Test, 200 ml prescription Deca and 500 ml Mexgear Nitro Primo. Last week, I skipped my regular Sunday pin day and had blood draw on Wednesday. Results? My total testosterone is a lousy190 ng/dl! Free testosterone is 70.7! WTF? Results of blood tests three months ago, when I was strictly following MD's orders, using 210ml prescription Test C, 100ml Deca weekly, my testosterone was 980ng/dl -- six times higher than when I "increased" my dosage. I ran out of prescription Test C a month ago because, as mentioned, I'd decided to do a 12 week cycle with Primo and upped the dosages, which is why I bought from Mexgear. Insights?
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    I'm not a pro or a mod but unless I completely misunderstood your post it would seem your compounds might not be up to par.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    I'm not a pro or a mod but unless I completely misunderstood your post it would seem your compounds might not be up to par.
    Thanks, I'm not going to make any snap judgements. Maybe there's some kind of weird Primo-Test interaction. If not, and I hate to say it, you're probably right.

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    I'm interested to hear some responses from someone in the know.
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    How many days between your last test shot and your blood draw?
    Last deca shot and blood draw?
    Primo shot and blood draw?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    How many days between your last test shot and your blood draw?
    Last deca shot and blood draw?
    Primo shot and blood draw?

    Thanks.
    Nine days prior to blood draw: 350ml Apex T-Testoserone, Mexgear, 100ml prescription Deca. Eighteen to fourteen days prior to blood draw: 500ml Apex Test, 500 ml Nitro Primo from Mexgear (I pinned twice that week.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    I'm not a pro or a mod but unless I completely misunderstood your post it would seem your compounds might not be up to par.
    +1

    but has he ever used that gear before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Situation View Post
    +1

    but has he ever used that gear before?
    Yeah, I have, used Mexgear; your PM was extremely helpful regarding testing. I want to make clear I really like Mexgear, they've been great to me. I posted this question because I'm genuinely flummoxed by the results of these blood tests. I hope the mods don't take it as a gambit to denigrate Mexgear, indeed I have been their consistent supporter during the recent problems. They have been very fast, very professional in my experience. But why the fuck are my test levels so low after more than doubling dosage, and then taking only a week off?

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    it is probably the gear u were using, thats awful low even for a non gear user. i dont know.


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    What were your test levels before starting HRT? Several things may be happening.
    I don't think you have no where near enough time between shots for your t level to drop that low.






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    Really appreciate your response. When I started HRT a year ago Test level was 375. Two following blood draws Test level was around 1000. Ran out of prescription Test a month ago, pinning APEX Test 350 since. This makes no fucking sense to me.

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    If you have been using apex 350 for a month and your test levels are that low i suspect the apex 350 to be no good and your test levels are that low due to your natural test being depressed and not functioning. You need to get your script refilled and started asap.
    Just as a side note, Ironmagazine has now dropped mexgear due to numerous complaints about gear.






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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    If you have been using apex 350 for a month and your test levels are that low i suspect the apex 350 to be no good and your test levels are that low due to your natural test being depressed and not functioning. You need to get your script refilled and started asap.
    Just as a side note, Ironmagazine has now dropped mexgear due to numerous complaints about gear.
    I feared that was the problem, but really did like the Mex guy, despite my poor Spanish and his poorer English. So my guess is the super strength Mexgear Apex Test 350 I bought from them is just plain oil. You have no way of knowing, of course, but I now also suspect the Mexgear Nitro Primobolean I bought is also bogus. What a pain in the ass. But thanks to you and Ironmagazine for having the integrity to fire fraudulent sponsors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    I feared that was the problem, but really did like the Mex guy, despite my poor Spanish and his poorer English. So my guess is the super strength Mexgear Apex Test 350 I bought from them is just plain oil. You have no way of knowing, of course, but I now also suspect the Mexgear Nitro Primobolean I bought is also bogus. What a pain in the ass. But thanks to you and Ironmagazine for having the integrity to fire fraudulent sponsors.
    That is a lot of money down the drain for you unfortunately.

    I'm going to be a little more proactive in my search to find a place to test certain compounds I receive in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    That is a lot of money down the drain for you unfortunately.

    I'm going to be a little more proactive in my search to find a place to test certain compounds I receive in the future.

    Test the stuff -- you're exactly right. I'll be looking for a place myself. The money loss really doesn't bother me. What is very troubling is that I trusted a company that knowingly misrepresented something that I injected into my body. If they care nothing about ethics, I suspect they care even less about cleanliness and safety. I just trashed three new bottles of "primo" and the remainder of Mexgear's Testosterone 350. I feel more than a little stupid -- not unusual. I've already ordered from GenX and will give WP a try, too.

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    Very unfortunate the way this all went down for you!

    It is enough of a challenge to maintane proper chemistry with good gear, let alone with quesionable material.

    Hopefully you will be able to regain a positive test level soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    Test the stuff -- you're exactly right. I'll be looking for a place myself. The money loss really doesn't bother me. What is very troubling is that I trusted a company that knowingly misrepresented something that I injected into my body. If they care nothing about ethics, I suspect they care even less about cleanliness and safety. I just trashed three new bottles of "primo" and the remainder of Mexgear's Testosterone 350. I feel more than a little stupid -- not unusual. I've already ordered from GenX and will give WP a try, too.
    considering how much you lost having items tested would probably be cheaper by comparison.
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    I dont know what to say bro, Id just get that gear tested... You dont need WP... genxxlgear will take good care of ya!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    But thanks to you and Ironmagazine for having the integrity to fire fraudulent sponsors.

    Really. Thanks for watching out for us!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    That is a lot of money down the drain for you unfortunately.

    I'm going to be a little more proactive in my search to find a place to test certain compounds I receive in the future.

    Honestly, do you have any idea what it costs to have those test run? It's going to cost you 3-4 times as much as a vial of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    Honestly, do you have any idea what it costs to have those test run? It's going to cost you 3-4 times as much as a vial of test.
    yes, i have a good idea actually.

    well worth the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    Honestly, do you have any idea what it costs to have those test run? It's going to cost you 3-4 times as much as a vial of test.
    This is a good point, but after my negative experience with Mexgear, I'm willing to pay whatever the cost for the sake of my own safety and health. Have you ever heard of Toxicology Inc. in Columbus, Ohio? It's the only place on the Internet that I found. Do you know of any labs who do this testing? Rhoid, you're a Florida guy, do you know any places here?

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    You guys need a new source, or just need to brew your own.

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    I've already heard back from Toxicology Inc. Not surprisingly, ChocT was right about pricing. $225 per shot (see price schedule below) but I think it's worth it. Discovering, through blood tests, that Mexgear had sold me testosterone-free "Apex Testosterone 350" was a real wake-up call. These overseas UGLs could be spitting in the gear we buy, for all we know, unless they are monitored in some fashion by the organizations, such as Ironmag, that screen their sponsors and hold them accountable. Considering the risks, it makes an Ironmag membership the best deal going.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    You guys need a new source, or just need to brew your own.
    I switched to GenX which has gotten great reviews, and their guys, Doublewide and Mason, have been very helpful, seem like real pros. Have also heard very good things about GAULS. Do you agree>

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    I switched to GenX which has gotten great reviews, and their guys, Doublewide and Mason, have been very helpful, seem like real pros. Have also heard very good things about GAULS. Do you agree>

    I don't know of them.

    I think stuff coming from overseas is a bit risky. Just my opinion. It may or may not be legit and if it is legit that doesn't mean it's dosed correctly.

    From what I hear GenXXL seems to do well by the people whom have used them.

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    [QUOTE=2tomlinson;2040470. Have also heard very good things about GAULS. Do you agree>[/QUOTE]

    they have been around for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROID View Post
    they have been around for a while.

    I just had a great talk with my MD last night about my blood tests. My IGF is way up, over 500, which he says means my blue tops HGH from China is working great. I told him truth about Mexgear and he just laughed, told me to stop doing that "bullshit" If I want to up my test doassge, Deca, anavar, too tell him, we'll do it. He's great. But I also have advanatge of being 59, so he can write scripts like this no prob. Also as I told Uncle M, I sent Mexgear a note in Spanish saying I had paid my Santeria friends in Cuba and Quinatna Roo $500 to place a curse on him and his workers for selling bogus gear. I have him exact dates of the curse, a six month curse. He wrote back in Spanish that "Your mother fucks skunks," which is pretty funny, but the curse really will bother those guys. They take that shit seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    I just had a great talk with my MD last night about my blood tests. My IGF is way up, over 500, which he says means my blue tops HGH from China is working great. I told him truth about Mexgear and he just laughed, told me to stop doing that "bullshit" If I want to up my test doassge, Deca, anavar, too tell him, we'll do it. He's great. But I also have advanatge of being 59, so he can write scripts like this no prob. Also as I told Uncle M, I sent Mexgear a note in Spanish saying I had paid my Santeria friends in Cuba and Quinatna Roo $500 to place a curse on him and his workers for selling bogus gear. I have him exact dates of the curse, a six month curse. He wrote back in Spanish that "Your mother fucks skunks," which is pretty funny, but the curse really will bother those guys. They take that shit seriously.
    what is he going to up your dose to ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tomlinson View Post
    I just had a great talk with my MD last night about my blood tests. My IGF is way up, over 500, which he says means my blue tops HGH from China is working great. I told him truth about Mexgear and he just laughed, told me to stop doing that "bullshit" If I want to up my test doassge, Deca, anavar, too tell him, we'll do it. He's great. But I also have advanatge of being 59, so he can write scripts like this no prob. Also as I told Uncle M, I sent Mexgear a note in Spanish saying I had paid my Santeria friends in Cuba and Quinatna Roo $500 to place a curse on him and his workers for selling bogus gear. I have him exact dates of the curse, a six month curse. He wrote back in Spanish that "Your mother fucks skunks," which is pretty funny, but the curse really will bother those guys. They take that shit seriously.
    thats fking hysterical

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