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    Would this be ok?

    Instead of drawing a half ml of test + 1ml of TEN6 hundred each time from 2 different vials, couldnt I just combine 5ml of test and 10ml of ten6 into a 20ml vial and draw 1.5ml each time? this we work right?

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    Theoretically speaking

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    would they be completely miscible ?
    maybe different carries would cause unequal distribution

    i thought there was a guy on here who knows all these things... heavyiron maybe
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    Yes you could but why? You run the risk of contamination with unnecessary movement.

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    Chocolates right. It only gives it another chance of contamination. I'm going to run into the same problem when I start the xtr500. What I'm planning on doing is running some more phenylprop along with the xtr500 or possible some test E. But in any case I will be drawing from a vial or possibly amps. Since we use a separate pin to draw with we dont have to worry about dulling a pin. It may be a bit of hassle but will be well worth it. I considered the mixing idea myself but decided separate draws would be wiser.

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    +1 Choc. Spot on as always.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    Yes you could but why? You run the risk of contamination with unnecessary movement.
    Id rather pin into 1 vial then have to pin into 2 per injection, Id say the risk is about the same. And just for practicality, its easier just to draw from one vial then to have to draw from two diff vials into 1 syringe.

    I would say in the long run, only having to draw from 1 vial is much safer then having to draw from 2.

    I just wanna make sure there would be nothing wrong with mixing the hybrid oil with regular test e in the same vial

    Quote Originally Posted by Roaddkingg View Post
    But in any case I will be drawing from a vial or possibly amps. Since we use a separate pin to draw with we dont have to worry about dulling a pin. It may be a bit of hassle but will be well worth it. I considered the mixing idea myself but decided separate draws would be wiser.
    Who is dumb enough to draw with the same injection needle? lol Im not worried about pin dulling or anything, I think im experienced enough to know to use drawing pins haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike09100 View Post
    Id rather pin into 1 vial then have to pin into 2 per injection, Id say the risk is about the same. And just for practicality, its easier just to draw from one vial then to have to draw from two diff vials into 1 syringe.

    I would say in the long run, only having to draw from 1 vial is much safer then having to draw from 2.

    I just wanna make sure there would be nothing wrong with mixing the hybrid oil with regular test e in the same vial



    Who is dumb enough to draw with the same injection needle? lol Im not worried about pin dulling or anything, I think im experienced enough to know to use drawing pins haha
    If you are going to do this, treat it as you would as if you were homebrewing. Filter, bake, ect. Getting an infection is just not worth it.






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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    If you are going to do this, treat it as you would as if you were homebrewing. Filter, bake, ect. Getting an infection is just not worth it.
    No need to filter or bake when drawing from an axio vial, into a sterile syringe, into a different sterile vial haha.

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    i do believe that if you combine the entire contents of 2 10ml vials into a 20ml vial you'll actually be dilluting each blend and will thus have to draw 2ml of oil to get the original mg's you would from just drawing it out of the original 10ml vial.....in theory it sounds good, but in reality you'll have to draw twice as much oil
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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i do believe that if you combine the entire contents of 2 10ml vials into a 20ml vial you'll actually be dilluting each blend and will thus have to draw 2ml of oil to get the original mg's you would from just drawing it out of the original 10ml vial.....in theory it sounds good, but in reality you'll have to draw twice as much oil
    im adding 5ml of regular test to 10ml of the hybrid.

    My injections are 1ml hybrid, and .5ml test, so i figured i could just mix it all before hand hmm

    And I would just draw 1.5ml from this final solution.

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    If the gear is compounded right there is little more risk of contamination than drawing normally. There should be at least 2% benzoic acid which is a bacteriostatic and will kill any trace amount of bacteria over a few hours. The biggest problems are compatibility of solvents between preparations and your math skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    i do believe that if you combine the entire contents of 2 10ml vials into a 20ml vial you'll actually be dilluting each blend and will thus have to draw 2ml of oil to get the original mg's you would from just drawing it out of the original 10ml vial.....in theory it sounds good, but in reality you'll have to draw twice as much oil
    ^ yeah, that is what i meant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycomann View Post
    If the gear is compounded right there is little more risk of contamination than drawing normally. There should be at least 2% benzoic acid which is a bacteriostatic and will kill any trace amount of bacteria over a few hours. The biggest problems are compatibility of solvents between preparations and your math skills.
    I've never understood this completely.

    If it's bacteriostatic does that mean it stops new bacteria from forming or does it kill newly introduced bacteria ?
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    just deal with drawing from 2 vials . . I was drawing from 3 FFS . . all part of the fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike09100 View Post
    No need to filter or bake when drawing from an axio vial, into a sterile syringe, into a different sterile vial haha.
    Do you think that Axio labs are on par with US labs? Manufacturing wise, standards and overall cleanliness?

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    I have a question for you Mike, don't take this the wrong way either, I'm not trying to be an ass.

    You ask a question if it's "ok" to do something, you get mainly responses of "not really" or "why". You then proceed to basically do what you wanted to in the first place, so why even ask the question to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocolateThunder View Post
    I have a question for you Mike, don't take this the wrong way either, I'm not trying to be an ass.

    You ask a question if it's "ok" to do something, you get mainly responses of "not really" or "why". You then proceed to basically do what you wanted to in the first place, so why even ask the question to begin with?
    Props. Thats the way it is with most guys.






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    I think irish 2003 is correct. if you are putting 5ml of test into 10ml of anything. you are dilluting the test by 10 ml. So if you put 5ml (test) into 10ml (anything)...and say its 100mg/ml @ 5ml.... it is now like 25mg/ml @15ml. This is because you will shake the hell out of it to mix it up. Now if you had put water based into same vial as oil based, it would sink as water is heavier than oil. Therefore you could draw from the different compounds. But when you mix them, it will dillute the mg/ml
    does this make sense.? If you could somehow retain the mg/ml then you are gtg but you cannot.

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    In all essence, if you mixed 2 compound then they would/should be the same ml, and mg/ml. so you should mix 10ml with 10ml. this way you'll be dilluting by twice the amount and will ultimately have to draw twice the amount for both compounds. ml's are ml's no matter what you add, but the mg per ml changes. by using 5ml @100mg/ml you will have to draw an insane amount to get the 100mg's, plus you will be injecting way too much tren6 just to get the desired 100mg of test.

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    I know this sounds pretty confusing so lets break it down to smaller even amounts. If you mix 1 cc/1ml (100mg/ml) of test with 1cc/1ml (100mg/ml) of tren, you will then have 50 mg/ml of test @ 2ml and 50mg/ml of tren @ 2ml !....You will have to draw the 2 ml to get 100 mg of test and tren. This only works if they are the same mg/ml and ml ammounts.....any other combination of mg/ml & ml will totally screw up your whole batch.

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